“Bullying builds character like nuclear waste creates superheroes. It’s a rare occurrence and often does much more damage than endowment.” ~ Zack W. Van
Have you ever been in a relationship with an emotional bully? I have.
I once dated a girl who would fairly regularly yell or cry or call names almost every time I disagreed with her, even over silly non-issues. Any comment that was in any way at odds with her position was taken as a frontal assault. It was really quite remarkable. And frustrating.
Have you been there? Are you there now?
Bully is as Bully does
Emotional bullies are not happy folk. No bully is. Bullies are much more likely to come from less-than-ideal circumstances — a broken home, a single parent, alcohol addiction in the family.
Fear often therefore motivates the bully’s behavior. Insecurities plague the darker parts of their hidden hearts, so they try to control external conditions to keep their anxious insides from spinning out of control.
Inside, they are barely hanging on so they overcompensate by tightening their grip on everything (and often everyone) outside.
Or they push others around in a vain attempt at feeling better about themselves by comparison. But whatever the reason, the problem is that they create the very social context that undermines their relationships, emotionally isolating themselves even more, further reinforcing their insecurities and giving fuel to their fears.
Emotional bullies do the same thing for the same reason. But instead of hands, they use words (and volume). Instead of lunch money, they rob relationships of trust and kindness and respect and depth and maturity.
In the end, it’s not the reason bullies push and shove that makes them bullies. It’s the pushing and shoving itself.
Self-Awareness and the Emotional Bully
What are your arguments like? Are they calm discussions or are they punctuated by anger and rage and abusive words meant to hurt? Are you an emotional bully? Perhaps you suspect you may be, but are not quite sure.
We often go through life with blinders on, very aware of what others are doing, seeing “clearly” what motivates their behavior, while not so clearly seeing our own. Instead, we justify and excuse in ourselves the very same behavior we would never tolerate from others.
That being the all-too-frequent case, the following characteristics should provide insight into what may have largely been ignored until now.
The hope is that if you see the signs of being an emotional bully (even if only border-line or occasional), you take note, then take the proper steps in your personal growth to overcome tendencies that are likely putting stress and strain on relationships that can only bend so far.
Remember, self-awareness is the first step to an exciting life of emotional growth and happiness, even if the initial look in the mirror hurts.
15 Characteristics of Emotional Bullies
1. You Interrupt
When things get heated, your feelings and thoughts get pushed to the front of the line. The other person’s thoughts and feelings get pushed to the back seat or right out the door onto the street and into oncoming traffic.
You constantly interrupt and stuff your points down others’ throats. You don’t let them finish a coherent thought. You keep at it until they give in or give up and otherwise lie down and let you have control of the conversation.
But really, at that point no real conversation exists. One is doing all the talking (perhaps yelling) while the other is doing all the listening (or pretending to).
Still, you know you are right, after all, so why wouldn’t you be given control of the conversation, right?
The thing is, all emotional bullies have “good reasons” why they dominate disagreements. The reason is not what makes for an emotional bully. It’s how a fight is played out.
2. You Throw Fits
Anger is an effective way to control an argument. It allows you to avoid discussion, give and take, compromise and the vulnerability of seeing the situation from the other side, maybe even being wrong.
So just explode and be done with it! No need to negotiate. No need to discus. And if the person you start yelling at has a low threshold of tolerance for conflict or fears the escalation affecting the kids or neighbors, then throwing a fit is perhaps the best way to always get your way.
And that’s what bullies do, after all: They push and shove until they get what they want. The hard work of becoming the kind of person deserving of respect is traded in for the relative ease of instilling fear.
But fear has never been steady ground for building healthy relationships or personal happiness.
3. You Accuse and Blame
“You make me …” “You’re such a …” “You always …” “If you really loved me, you would …”
By leveling accusations (especially the unfounded or exaggerated or all-inclusive or all-exclusive kind), you effectively push your opponent into the corner. By blaming them, you remove the responsibility of trying to understand their position or playing by the Golden Rule from your shoulders.
When you see the person you’re arguing with as an opponent to be beat, someone you’re in battle with, rather than a partner working toward agreement, coming to a shared understanding, what’s said matters less than who wins—when in truth, nobody wins in such circumstances, at least not in the long-run.
This way, you can feel justified in taking some course of action a responsible person never would. After all, if it’s someone else’s fault; you’re not responsible; they brought this all on themselves; it’s their fault I’m blaming, accusing, interrupting or crying!
4. You Cry
For most people, crying is not likely a tool used to intentionally manipulate the outcome of a disagreement. At least not consciously.
The tears are often a learned response to stress or disagreement or confrontation. You interpret the disagreement as somehow a slap in your face and equate it with rejection. And, of course, there are many who are simply more prone to emotional responses to emotional pain or anger. But crying can, nonetheless, manipulate a disagreement to your favor.
A bully who bullies because his parents bullied him is still a bully. So it is with chronic criers who use their tears to get their way (this does NOT mean that all chronic criers use their tears to end or control an argument. There are people who cry easily but allow their brains and values to determine the outcome of a fight, not their tear ducts). Still, if your tears are used to regularly end the debate, then it must be said that intimidation by other means is still intimidation.
5. You Arm Your Kids for Battle
This is a low blow even for full-fledged bullies. Putting your own kids in the way of emotional trauma is indeed a cruel thing to do. And yet many parents do it anyway. They use them as ammunition or as witnesses against their spouse.
When winning a fight is more important than protecting your kids from it, you have jumped head first into the thick moral mud of the bully. Only now you’re bullying the children as well.
6. You Yell and Scream
When you shout, you’re essentially saying, “Your thoughts and opinions are irrelevant.” Yelling over another person is the same as saying they have no right to speak, to express their unique opinion and point of view.
This is the equivalent of a verbal wedgie, except it’s your position that you’ve yanked up the other person’s crack.
7. You use Profanity
Cussing is an intimidation tactic. It insulates you from having to think. Depending on how the cussing is used, it helps you avoid the real issue. If the other person is a blanking son of a hipshooter, then, by flippin hockstockers, why listen to the bum at all?
Discredit the person by depersonalizing him or her as a flapjacketed goshomatic and the message he’s bearing no longer matters. Case closed. Bullied into a corner. Win!
8. You Tie their Tongue to Lengthen Yours
Have you ever been in a fight with your spouse, a boyfriend or the next door neighbor when they say, “Okay, okay! I don’t want to do this anymore! I’m done arguing, so just stop it!”
Then they continue arguing with the pause button on your mouth firmly pressed and no such restrictions on their own wagging tongues.
That’s the emotional equivalent of saying, “I’ll keep my lunch money … and I’m taking yours as well!”
9. You Slam Doors and Throw the Remote Control across the Room
This tactic for bullying your way deeper into what you want is only one step down from actual physical bullying. Throwing objects around the house, even if not at the person is still an act of violence. It’s intimidation. And it’s wrong.
If you feel the urge welling up inside, put yourself on timeout. Go cool off. Come back when the bullying impulse has disappeared and the adult has come back home.
If when you return, the urge to break something comes back, go cool off again, as many times as it takes to stay in control — of yourself, that is!
10. You Punish
This sort of passive aggressive behavior is meant to punish the other person into submission. And if this isn’t emotional bullying, nothing is!
You ignore, hang up and give the silent treatment. You let them know in no uncertain terms that they are (or soon will be) in the doghouse for daring to argue with you.
11. You Seek Revenge
Silent treatments and the like can be a sort of revenge, for sure. But revenge-seeking includes so much more as well.
Withholding sex, leaving chores undone, coming home late on purpose, going to the bar, moving out, even sustained anger can be used as a form of getting back at another person.
All such behavior is immature, selfish and mean-spirited. They are tactics of the bully and have to stop.
12. You Threaten
Have you ever threatened divorce, suicide or unfaithfulness during an argument? If so, as the self-appointed marital and relationship ref, I call foul!
Advanced emotional bullying practitioners will be familiar with the threat-card. It’s a powerful tool for getting what you want … and sometimes even more.
Those who are emotional bullies are usually those who have deep emotional wounds, tender and painful. The problem is that in their panic to hold on to something they feel has slipped (or is slipping) away, they do the very thing that loses the others’ respect, love and empathy.
It is self-sabotage. It is a self-inflicting wound. And trust is the blood the relationship loses as it drains from the open wound self-inflicted.
13. You Unbury the Dead
Do you reach back as far as you can go to make the point you want to make, dredging up what should rightly be left in the past?
Are you more concerned with winning the point than honoring the right to keep past mistakes that have long been overcome, stopped, corrected, made up for, repented of, buried there?
Are you more interested in beating your opponent into submission that honoring human decency?
People have the right to change. And once changed, to be treated as that changed person. Otherwise, you may win the battle, but at a tremendously high cost.
14. No one’s Feelings Count … (but yours)
If you have placed your heart in the position of being the lifeblood of your relationship, it becomes easier to justify bully tactics because your feelings are the only feelings to be considered in a fight.
But tears should never justify bad behavior. Feelings should never trump values and human decency. Anger can be communicated without viciousness. But if only your feelings count, then what you say in an argument and how you say it becomes irrelevant.
After all, it’s only your heart that matters, right?
15. Preemptive Anger
If your temperature gauge is always set at anger as your first response to, well, everything, you can successfully manipulate disagreements to your favor almost every time by virtue of your reputation.
Knowing how you will likely reply (because that’s how you almost always have) your partner may throw in the towel long before the main event even begins just to avoid an emotional slugfest.
A preemptive win, perhaps. But a huge personal development and relationship loss.
Now What?
The good news is that emotional bullies don’t have to remain emotional bullies. And while the steps to move away from emotionally bullying others in an argument may be difficult, those steps are very much worth the effort and the discomfort the effort will likely produce.
After all, the very reason emotional bullies bully is not being met by the bullying. Certainly not in the long-run.
While the reason one person will bully their way through an argument may be different from another, the long-term result is the same: another strain on yet another relationship, further pushing that relationship to the edge, sacrificing love and trust and compassion for another win.
So, what if you recognized yourself in one or more of the arguing styles above? Don’t worry. All is not lost. Happiness can’t be swallowed in one bite any more than an elephant can be. Just a bite at a time will do.
The following are some of those small bites to consider …
3 Ways to Stop Being an Emotional Bully
1. Accept the Whirlwind
For some, the idea of letting someone else “challenge” their opinion is tantamount to being kicked in the gut. It hurts. They feel their person, not just their position, is being ripped apart. They don’t differentiate between who they are and what they think about a given topic.
Their identity equals their opinion. One is the other. So when such a person’s opinion is challenged, they feel their very being is being challenged and invalidated. There is nothing left but self-defense. And so anger and shouting and cursing becomes the emotional means of circling the wagons while under attack.
The thing is, they’re not under attack. The person is not being ripped apart. No spears are being thrown at their very existence. They are just words. Opinions about a topic. An argument as an expression of two differing ideas, not the rejection of a person.
It might be scary. Still, walk into the openness of an open-ended disagreement anyway. Let the rush of uncertainty and unpredictability and even chaos wash over you. Allow it. Be curious about your growing anger or frustration or fear or anxiety.
Accept life as something bordering the chaotic, as terrifying as that thought may be to you. Let go of your grip on it. See where the discussion takes you.
Maybe it will reinforce the opinion you had to begin with. Maybe it won’t. Maybe you’ll compromise. Maybe you’ll find yourself convinced.
But where you end up on the other side of a disagreement is nothing to what the quality of the relationship is afterward.
Disagreements can be opportunities to nourish love, respect and mutual understanding or to poison such essential traits to a healthy relationship.
So value the relationship more than the emotional wall you’ve built. Because ultimately it’s the protective walls in our lives that keep others from getting inside of us. And when we keep others out, we undermine the very relationships we hope to provide us with the love we may have missed growing up.
2. Care more about the Person than the Win
As you enter a disagreement and the pulse starts racing, stop and tell yourself that they too have a right to disagree, that they can disagree with your position without discounting or discrediting or invalidating you as a person. Remind yourself that to the degree they disagree with you, you are in fact also disagreeing with them.
This cognitive acceptance is an important first step to emotional acceptance. And often (over time), holding this kind of dialogue with yourself is enough to open your heart as well.
3. Take it a Step at a Time
Don’t push yourself faster than you can go. But don’t use your comfort zone as an excuse to stay put and make everyone else pay the price of your insecurities. Own them. They are yours. Not your spouse’s or your kids’ or your friends’ or anyone else’s.
They may have been ingrained by someone in your past, but even they don’t own them today. You do. Never justify making someone else pay the price of keeping your insecurities safe and well-fed.
Begin today to see life from the vantage point of another persons’ perspective. You’ll be amazed at the broadening of your own.
Short Term vs. Long Term
So often, when we find ourselves acting the role of the emotional bully, we are thinking very short term, right now, this fight, what I want this moment. We are effectively third graders using adult words to express adult themes in extremely immature and self-defeating ways. We should know better.
And, in fact, we often do. Perhaps you see yourself in some of the characteristics of an emotional bully, but feel you don’t really “use” the yelling or crying or anger as a “tactic” to win a fight as much as it is simply an emotional reaction in the moment.
Still, the reason or motive is largely irrelevant to whether the bullying is happening. Whether consciously planned or habitually acted out or emotionally and spontaneously reacted to, the behavior is what identifies a bully as such, not what’s in the bully’s heart.
Maturity and compassion requires something of us. It takes work. It demands internal growth. Sometimes it requires a good solid dose of humility to see what we’ve been hiding from. Sometimes it means getting on bended knee. Sometimes it means seeking professional or clerical help.
Fear and pain and a very thin layer of emotional skin can make dealing with the larger issue very scary. But there is a larger issue than the immediate argument. The larger issue is you. We are often our own worst enemies. We so often stumble over our own feet.
But the promise of peace at home, adults being allowed to be adults in their own homes, rationally discussing what has been emotional volcanic activity so far is a goal worth pursuing.
Besides, what’s the alternative? Keep shoving others into emotional corners, disallowing them a voice, preventing them from speaking their minds? Or fighting so hard to stop them from hitting you square in the heart of your insecurities with yet another onslaught of disagreement and challenge and opinion?
None of the alternatives lend themselves to happiness. So stop pursuing them. Exercise the courage to take a higher road.
Afterthoughts
Of course, it takes two to tango … and to argue. That’s a given. We all make communication blunders. We all bring baggage to every relationship we enter. But since we can never truly change someone else (they have to change themselves), I suggest starting with the only person we have any real control over.
Here’s the hope, the light that flickers at the end of what may appear to be a long and lonely tunnel: Often, when we choose to change, the relationship does too, sometimes in unexpected but marvelous ways.
Hold on to that thought as you begin the process of looking deeply in the mirror at your naked soul and seeking help to change.
Self-awareness can be a powerful thing. But whatever the next step is for you, please take it. Your relationships and your happiness very well may depend on it.
A Note to the Bullied
While this post is directed at the emotional bully, arming them with the power of self-awareness in hopes of igniting the desire to make some changes to their lives, their relationships and therefore to their happiness, I can’t leave the bullied out of the discussion altogether.
No one should ever live under the yoke of tyranny. The first thing a tyrant does when he ascends to power is to obliterate the free press, free speech and the right to assemble.
Those rights can’t end within the walls of a relationship. When voices are stifled, resentment replaces the words. When ideas and opinions are pressed down, other things get squeezed out, like love and passion and self-respect.
But verbal communication is not the only way to communicate. If things are bad, try the written word. It may give the bully in your life time to think. Go slow and build from there.
Teach the emotional bully in your life the higher values of the right to speak your mind. Don’t shove it down their throat if you value the relationship, but don’t submit to silence either.
If even the written expression of your thoughts and opinions and disagreements keeps erupting in ugly confrontations, then it may be time to press for outside help (even if only for yourself), perhaps seeking inspiration from above and insight from a marriage and family counselor.
If that doesn’t work, there may be bigger decisions for you to consider that a person on the outside is ill-equipped to help you make. Still, freedom (where it is being seriously threatened) seems worth protecting even if at the expense of commitment to things like vows.
Final Word
I’ve laid down over 3,600 words in this post because I’m convinced emotional bullying goes on a lot more than most people think. I wanted to be fairly exhaustive in my discussion of a serious block to people’s happiness. Our relationships matter. They matter a lot.
My hope is that some of you will take to heart what I’ve written here, that lives will be reevaluated and steps taken to improve what may have been a festering sore in the happiness of your relationships.
YOUR TURN!
So, what do you think? Have a overstated the idea of emotional bullying? Have you seen signs of borderline emotional bullying in your own life? In others? And how have you handled emotional bullies you have encountered? This is a question I haven’t addressed here in the post, but would love to get some feedback, perhaps to use in a future follow-up post.
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This is a very powerful post. I’m glad you took the time to write about this because I feel this is something that is not addressed enough. Growing up, I have been a victim of emotional bullying or abuse from a parent. Since it is not something physical or even measurable, it is often brushed to the side. I’ve moved on and am now happily married with beautiful children, but reading this post brought back a lot of hurt memories of my mother. She is fortunately a different person now, at least from what I can see. But that still was quite a journey. But sometimes it’s hard to move forward because of what I went through with her growing up. I feared her immensely–she would manipulate situations, would make me feel worthless, explode, hardly ever smile at me or ever just in general, and would bring me into arguments with her and my father, and much more. I feel like this post was exclusively about my mother since it’s so accurate. I’m kind of going on a rant here, but I guess this just brought up a lot of raw emotion and memories for me. It took a very long time for me to forgive her, but sometimes i have days where memories flood my mind and i become angry again. Anyway, thanks for making me be more self aware. This is the last thing I want to become and I feel like I can be this way sometimes unfortunately. But this is a very helpful post to bring awareness to this horrible occurrence. This helps people understand that being bullied reflects the bully and their incapacity to deal with life and to not take it personally. Thank you.
Hi Sam,
Thank you so much for your openness here. You make such an excellent point when you say that the unmeasurable nature of parental emotional abuse makes it also more likely to be swept aside. That’s too bad. The damage that parents can inflict on their kids by the regular look of disregard or disgust can bore holes just as deeply into the psyche of the child as a backhand can.
You have done something many people coming from that kind of background have a very difficult time creating: a happy marriage. That’s something to feel deeply grateful for, Sam. AS for some of the old baggage purculating up into your current life. That’s to be expected. The real test is what we do with those feelings. Do we brush them aside or feed them or deal with them? Only dealing with them truly ends the emotional impact they continue to otherwise have on our ives, at least from time to time.
You might find an article I wrote for another blog interesting. It’s called 12 Ways to Forgive Your Parents for Doing Such a Crummy Job of Raising You. Follow the link over and see if it helps. I think it might.
So glad I was able to provide you with something that resonated and provided some insight into your past. The return of anger suggests you may still have some work to do in forgiving and accepting and even embracing (as odd as that may sound at first blush) your past.
Again, thanks for the comment, Sam. It means a lot to me that you felt you could share that story.
Hi Sam – I don’t think your comment comes across as a rant, but as a very meaningful point of view of a damaging experience. Having grown up with a mother who ruled the house that at times felt like a prison camp – beatings and routine emotional bullying – ‘if your father and I get divorced it will be all your fault’, ‘you’re uncontrollable, I’m going to call the police and have you sent to a home’, barricading myself in my bedroom or jumping out of the window (ground floor!) and hiding in the garden until my dad got home – phew, anyway, having grown up with all that I think the ‘bullying mother’ is a character that’s as commonly discussed as the bullying father. Strangely though, she talked to a school bully when I was 11 and that stopped for a while, so it’s not like she was all bad. Now I help her care for my dad – it’s strange to think that now he’s totally dependent on her – and she has total control. He still says things like, ‘you better check with mum’ – and her emotional outbursts have returned, disagreements are full of doors being closed in my face, tears, shouting, threats to cause herself harm, invitations for me to cause her harm, accusations – ‘you’re full of hate’, ‘you’re taking everything away from me’, criticisms of emergency services, health-workers and so on. But yet reading excellent Ken’s article is very helpful for me to also examine my own behaviour – sometimes I push too far – I had got to a place once where I’d found forgiveness, I’d realised she carries her own hurt and once I’d started seeing this terrifying grown up as an injured child I found compassion because she was simply someone was scared of the world and needed all this control to feel safe. Unfortunately being here full time with her has bought a lot of less helpful feelings back to the fore – so I also need to recognise when to let things go. I also recognise that I’ve not been able to form lasting relationships with women because I gravitate towards women full of drama. That’s my fault, not my mum’s – but it helps to understand why I find those relationships more compelling than something more peaceful and nurturing.
Good afternoon.
I am an “emotional bully”. I enjoyed your post and I agree with every word you wrote. I was not always this way, many negative things have brought me to this point. I’ve been attending professional meetings for years and seeking for help all this time.
I’m ruled by fear, that easily changes me into somebody I am not. I do not wish to become that person as I’m warm – hearted and kind by nature, loving development and peace, but it happens when I get romantically and emotionally involved. I’m scared any time this person has a different opinion related to the subject that matters to me (sometimes a silly one). I do not shout nor insult, I simply get into a discussion and do my best to FORCE my opinion on him. I know this is ridicilous, but I am not able to stop doing that. I have a feeling that if we had more in common (views, etc), it would be more possible for him to love me, to make our relationship stable.
It’s a vicious circle, I’m aware, but the more I care, the more I’m afraid to be left alone.
At The beginning of my every relationship, I am more myself. It attracts men. After I get involved, I change into a possesive person, I bring restrictions, I wish to spend my whole time with him, I see a threat in his friedns, his time alone. This attitude of mine hurts me very much and I wish to change, but I’m not able to.
Your comment is literally word for word my mindset right now. I’m 23 and in a relationship with a guy would gives me unconditional love and considering leaving him bc I feel I don’t deserve him. Did you ever find a solution? How are you doing now? I’m really curious to know
So sad the damage not just on the moment but long term effect on the abused bullied victim. I dated and was madly in love with a charming Mr perfect, after 3months of flowers and dinners and meeting families I faced the first event which shocked me, dinner out I went to pay but was “No No’d” when I got my purse out, discreetly I put it back as he clearly wanted to be the gentleman that evening. . We had always taken turns to pay as we are both independent and neither well off, after paying he got up without a word and walked out leaving me at the table.. I went out to find him and he kicked off into an angry rant about women using men as a meal ticket and he has experienced this before, stunned and shaken and crying I got cash from a cashpoint and gave it to him and said ide walk home, he convinced me to let him drive me home and excused his behaviour with past memories of another woman.. I should have known then, I Did! That’s the thing.. I just wanted to be wrong.. I wasn’t. Two and a half years later I’ve had a nervous breakdown hospitalised due to this. It ended by me hearing a recording he had taken of us on holiday where I had passed out in the locked bathroom.. He shouted at me even after I had managed to open the door, still laying in a pool of my own urine, hurt hip and head and he was yelling at me.. He a year later played the audio back to me after another physical autication again funnily enough in the bathroom of his sister, growling in my face and pushing me. I feared his anger and he knew it. I would try to stand up for myself and not be bullied but to his that was disrespect. I am now almost 6months out of this relationship and still haven’t come to terms with what he put me through or why he treated me so much like his enemy when all I ever did was to be kind and loving to him and his beautiful children.. He ill do this again, he did it with his ex wife also.. Confirmed by her. But what hope is there for me to get over losing the love of my life who ruined us in such a cruel way. He has painted me black to his friends and family.. Justified himself in ignoring me. It a never ending nightmare for me.. I still love and miss him. Any advice would be so gratefully received x Rachel
I must add that this circumstance was physical bullying, but the emotional was much harder and almost daily, ignoring texts, no contact for days because he had been upset that I had asked for some us time, sagging me off behind my back to his family and friends but telling me he had been honest about his faults but they agreed with his viewpoint, further isolating me and alienating me from them. Creating further insecurity and fear of their opinions of me when all I was asking for was one evening out for us after three months of hobbies and his children.. Very angry accusations of being controlling were then thrown at me for the following year and a half until he began the physical violence of pushing me. Then silences, ignoring texts, breaking up, causing scary rows so I left then calling me seconds later to come back over and over again on the same night too and fro from his house, hilarious thinking about how it looked, but in that moment I desperately wanted to be with him and wanted him to truly be sorry and stop.. Just stop being so angry and mean and cruel. But he never did.. He just enjoyed the power and control he had, over me, my emotions and how easily he could crush me or lift me. Sick and twisted and I should I hear you all saying.. Be grateful it is over, but I still miss and love and want the man I fell in love with whom I still know exists when he chooses. Such a waste and I will always regret ever knowing that pain of loving him and knowing this pain of losing him and his children.
Raxhel
Big hugs,. Rachel.
I, too, was bullied. I was married for 28 years, and finally divorced him in 2008. 10 years later now, a lot of the pain is gone and I have forgiven him for most of it. But there are times when he is brought up and I cannot help but get bitter.
Luckily, that is not very often. I now have a peaceful life even though I lost my brand new home, most of y friends, and my whole way of life. Being poor really sucks, but it is much better to be poor than to be always angry and intimidated.
He is not ” the love of your life”. He is the hate of your life. Love is NOT cruel. If you “love”( a cruel person who works at destroying you) YOU have deep self hatred. He is just treating you as you treat yourself. YOU DON’T LOVE YOU. He is just giving you what YOU think you deserve. You are extremely broken and have no inkling of your high value and worth as a person and as a woman. You need a good spiritual counselor who will teach you what self love is from the Word of God. Now THAT’S love!
Not sure I agree about swearing (some people – both the swearer and swearee – are fine with it.
The rest I think is excellent.
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Hey there, Evan,
True, that’s why the way the cussing is used determines whether it constitutes emotional bullying. Also, whether one side accepts or uses the same langage doesn’t necessarily change the act. I can bully someone even if the bullied doesn’t realize I’m bullying. Admittedly, this is easier to contemplate in the abstract than come up with a specific example. 😉
Here’s an example, I suppose: I can push a guy with the intent of bullying him, only to be met with his laughter and a pat on my back as he walks away, still chuckling. The fact that he had no idea what I was trying to do doesn’t mean I wasn’t bullying. I was just an ineffective bully. 🙂
So while I still say you’re correct that not all cussing is always emotional bullying, some of it is even if the bullied person isn’t responding to the attempted push to a corner.
Thanks so much for the comment, Evan. Always thought-provoking and always appreciated.
Hi With regards to cussing I think it could be helpful to see it as any type of derogatory language used to humiliate or belittle
Enjoyed the blog and found it spot on
When I started the article I was thinking that I have been emotionally bullied and I would recognize the traits in the person who tormented me for so long. And I did. What I didn’t expect is that in all honesty I have done some of these things myself. I didn’t see that coming! I’m grateful to say that these behaviors are long past, but even so I didn’t even like seeing them even in retrospect. Very humbling.
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Hi Galen!
Mirrors are hard to look into sometimes, aren’t they? Especially when we don’t expect to see the pock marks of our pasts so clearly. But yes, I suppose most of us have experienced many of the examples to some degree or another at some time in our lives. I know I have.
But the best weaknesses to discover are the ones we used to have. They become testaments to our own growth and development. Such discoveries to me are moments to be celebrated rather than to feel shame and regret. Humbling, yes. But grateful we’re no longer there. So go celebrate, my dear friend!
I just finished reading your article and you are spot on, I know because I am an emotional bully bordering on a physical one. I am 53 years old and a nightmare to be around for anyone but especially my poor long suffering husband. I don’t want to be like this anymore, I don’t want to keep terrorizing others. Yours is the first article I’ve found that made me turn my ever critical looking glass on myself full bore and I do not like what I see. I am going to immediatly start working on this using your advice as my guide, I just pray it’s not too late for myself, husband and marriage. My husband is a really good man, great loving heart, compassionate soul and I am beyond lucky that after 26 years of hell he still insists he loves me. Thank you for such a wonderful if agonizingly painful article, I believe for the first time I can truly change and I am willing to put forth the work needed and I am going to start now as I approach my husband and share your article with him.
Thank you again for shining a light of hope where there was none before.
I am deeply touched that you opened up and shared such an intimate thing, Dawn. It’s comments like this that make what I do here worth my time and effort.
Well, the first step to change is to recognize that change is needed. Congratulations! The first step has been taken!
Now it’s time for you and your husband to start your greatest adventure, the crafting of a new marriage where respect and kindness, forgiveness and gratitude, thoughtfulness and allowing each other the right to disagree and hold interests outside each other, the freedom to pursue goals and develop hobbies and interests, to be a team working toward the same general goal, each working at their own pace in their own way, without manipulation or demands, where adults are free to be adults and love is nourished and love is allowed to grow and bloom freely.
And that, Dawn, is an adventure of a lifetime!
Wishing you courage and humility and God’s speed!
Hello Dawn,
Word for word, yours could be mine. I saw in this how I have bullied my husband. I also fear it may be too late, and how overwhelming it feels to wade into the needed changes rivering through chaos. I don’t even know I’m doing it, I’ve been bullying so long. In fact, I think some of my therapy has taught me how to bully “better” using words seemingly evolved. I’m glad I feel shattered. I hope the pieces give me a place and tools to build a recovery and the relationship I hope for and he deserves. Thank you, Ken Wert, for this stepstone. And deep gratitude to you, Dawn Ford. Wishing you peace and strength on your journey.
I identified with this article a great deal. Much like Galen, I have definitely been emotionally bullied. I did, however, notice that I am guilty of some of the traits as well. I need to look at that closely because I can only change me. Thanks for the wonderful insight!
yer awesome! Just sayin’!!!
I think you’d better grab a coffee, Ken. And settle down to read. 😀
“If we had to tolerate in ourselves what we tolerate in others, life would be unbearable” is a beautiful quote. I forget who said it.
My Mom used to say nags are a kind of bully – and that all Moms (including me) tend to practice it at some point or other. Whenever one of us did it, and realized it, we would say “Cut the EB!” (EB = emotional blackmail) and burst out laughing because that was the domain of one particular family member. And the situation would suddenly become funny as we considered ourselves novices compared to that person.
I hate any form of disruptive argument – and prefer to sort things out amicably. I know my tolerance level is high and am often construed as being a sucker. It is just that I prefer to divert my energies to positive and productive stuff and at the end of the day, my mind is clear. And I am glad my son, who is considered a softie, is a serene sort of chap who does not believe in picking up fights or arguing to get his own way.
There are people who just don’t want to listen because they’ve already concluded who is right (they are, of course) and go through the motions of “discussion”, getting more and more impatient when they have to “give”. It is like reasoning with a wall. These people can get annoyed at just about anything and they’re champs at the blame game. Very frequently, they are more to be pitied than censured – because of their own unresolved issues.
Ah, tears. I have a niece who drives us nuts using tears to get her way – the moment things are just the way she want its, those tears magically dry up.
No.5 is terrible. It scars some children for life and gives them all the wrong messages. Growing up – it shapes the belief system and drains the self-esteem.
No.7…hmmm. learning points :D.
No.9 is quite disgusting – and when I see it in the movies, I always worrying about who’s going to clean up the mess – emotional and real
But of all the points, Ken, you’ve hit the nerve with 13. People always see others the way they want and not the way they are. They accuse them, and then, when they change, won’t treat them accordingly. I suspect that since being decent won’t come naturally to them, they like to freeze the situation at the point where they can continue to bully. But then, when it is all about them, that’s hardly surprising.
In our family system, the elders always tend to bully the young to some degree or other. In many cases, it is just that they sound that way, but this is interpreted somewhat negatively and builds up over time – making the elder come across as an arrogant bully and the young, without reacting outwardly, festers inside and finds ways to rebel. They assume the elder is trying to control them. I’ve gone through this – but somewhere in my teen years, was lucky to have a cousin talk to me – his father was feared – and was surprised to find the elder actually quite friendly. I realized it wasn’t their fault that the younger people did not speak up. Raising voices in anger is not encouraged at home because louder voices are not automatically right.
This reminds me of how my son tackled bullying in school. Apparently one day, when it got to be too much to bear, he asked the bully if he was through and done with what he wanted to say and asked him, “Are you feeling better now? Then I am okay with it. Because one of us has to benefit, right?” Over the course of the week, the bullying stopped. As you rightly said, being quiet simply encourages the bully.
Bullying is a serious issue that, ironically, cannot be solved by fighting!
Phew. Great, powerful post, Ken. Quite the pillar!
Hugs. Vidya
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Haha! Well, since you worked your way through my 3,000+ word behemoth, you won the right to write anything you would like to write as long as you would like to write it! 🙂
I wish I would have included nagging to the list! Thanks to you (and your mom!) for bringing that up. But it’s so true. Once we’ve made our desires clear, to keep nagging someone is to push them into doing it on our schedule.
I’ve known quite a few walls I’ve tried to reason with. And I agree! So frustrating.
Your whole comment is just awesome, and I thank you so much for sharing your experiences, Vidya. But above all, I absolutely LOVE the story of your son’s response to the bully at school. His words should be memorized by every child and practiced until fluent. Just perfect! What a courageous and yet kind, gentle and noble way to deal with bullying!
Thanks for being your absolute awesome self, Vidya!
Hugs back atcha!
I am in couples therapy with my partner and our therapist suggested I may be bullying him. I did an online search for emotional bullying and came across your outstanding blog. Your characterization of the emotional bully is one that I unfortunately can relate to. I am the bully and I was completely unaware of it. I have shared your blog with my partner and I have vowed that I will do everything I can to change my behavior. Thank you for a very pointed, and for me, painful, introspective read.
Thank you so much for sharing a glimpse of your story here, Janeen. I am deeply impressed, I must say. Less courageous and less honest people tend to excuse, blame and justify their behavior. The willingness to confront the painful within and to commit to wrestling it down to the ground and actually do something about it, accepting responsibility as the necessary precondition for any kind of significant and lasting change is truly impressive and inspiring. And, of course, it is ultimately incredibly liberating. Thank you so much and good luck on your journey!
With respect and admiration,
Ken
Hi
Am worried I am picking on my hubby way too much. He’s very nice & loves me and always forgives me for being a *****, so admitting I might be a bully is quite hard. I feel so emotionally let down over & over for 35 years and it drives me crazy, almost literally. I feel no emotional support from him, so damaged by his distant parents. I will spend some time trying the things you have suggested.
Thanks for sharing here, Alice. Seeing ourselves in the mirror clearly can be a bit discomforting. But we all have shadowy or even hidden parts that when discovered can knock us on our butts. So kudos to you for the courage to look closely. Too many people look away before they are forced to confront challenges they refuse to admit seeing.
It’s important to remember that not being a bully doesn’t mean laying prostrate and accepting neglect or being emotionally let down. Deep and hard conversations about important matters need to be had. Even fought over. Sometimes emotionally. The important thing is to have the emotional maturity enough to resist interpreting a fight as proof of failure of lack of love or meanness or other self-destructive ways of putting an end to hard work of negotiating needs and talking through tough issues.
So good luck and God bless as you learn to find the balance between being kind and loving, patient and forgiving, and still standing up for yourself, seeing yourself worthy of having needs met and exercising the courage and the honesty and the maturity to navigate through the conversational difficulties that may lie ahead!
So I did a search because my husband and I are going through a lot of marital problems at this time. And all of the behaviors describe how our arguments go only I am the one they are describing. You’re probably wondering what my question is if I am leading up to a question so here it is. Every other day my husband comes up to me and rubs my stomach and asked when’s the baby due but I’m not pregnant and he knows it. Her tells me I’m on vacation because I am a stay at home mother of three kids two are in elementary school and one is 16 months old. He tells me things like he can’t wait till he retires so that I can work all the time and he can just be on vacation. When we order food going through a drive-through on a road trip he orders a kids meal so he’s not eating as much bad food and I’ll order a regular meal and he’ll switch my meal with his and tell me I don’t need that much fat food because I’m unhealthy. I weigh 160 pounds and I’m 54. Yes I’m overweight no I am not obese. I struggle with hypo thyroid is him and anxiety/depression . My husband and I i’ve been married for eight years now and I’ve tried to overcome a lot of his OCD problems and control issues. He is a career military man. One day he took me to a counselor because they suggested it at work and afterwards he decided it was a bad idea because I threw him under the bus and he claims that it wasn’t a family counselor and the guy knows nothing about marriage counseling. He was sure that he would go in there the counselor would tell me that I had too many issues and needed to fix myself but when the counselor heard what I had to say he turned to him and said how would you feel if she did that to you. Now I would like to fix my self and not get upset and yell and curse and scream over him. I want to change our marriage. How can I stop him from treating me this way without bullying?
Hello Amber,
Your post makes me feel so sad. I hope you have found some strength and some allies to help you along your path. Whoever thinks that someone keeping a house and raising 3 children exposes themselves as ignorant. Sending peace and strength.
Thank you Janeen for your comment.
I am currently a victim of my wife’s bully.
I have been subjected to all the traits in this article, and I can’t fight back, even with words because people believe as a man, I may have been the predator.
Unfortunately for me, we live in a country where these things are not taken seriously, and even more difficult to seek therapy.
We have had discussions around this but it’s not yielding result. I honestly would have ended the marriage if not for my kids.
I am tired, broken, and lost.
Hi, from personal experience … if your children are witnessing their dad upsetting their mum or they think you would be upset (as mine said at age four and five ‘ don’t bully mummy!’, or if they are exposed to frequent arguments or obvious adult frustrations and lack of adult self control , if they are not happy children and especially if your husband is dragging you under from being a stable parent and you need to cover for him or walk on eggshells to protect your children, then you should discuss separating with him for these reasons. Many men like this will not have the sensitivity or selflessness to agree, however, so protect yourself first by having a separate bank account he doesn’t know about and somewhere safe to go just in case. Do not leave the kids with him or the family pets. Be positive about the conversation in case there is a way of solving him behaviours but he may just be too damaged or have an unpleasant personality. The kids are not a reason to stay in a marriage if staying exposed them to bad parenting or verbal or physical violence, especially if they are collateral damage. Hope he gets the message as marital counselling will only work if both parties want it o ( and then, of course, it probably isn’t needed).
when we put this criteria in mind many people turn out to be emotional bullies
people should stop doing that because it causes more harm than good
emotional bullying is as bad as bullying and am happy you notified people about it ken
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Thanks Farouk. Emotional bullying in the ways I’ve talked about here, especially as they apply to disagreements within close relationships, becomes such a difficult hurtle to get past as people try to create loving relationships that serves their happiness and the healthy development of their children and their own personal progress.
Ultimately, it’s a sign of respecting their own perceived needs at the expense of the other person’s. It’s serious and needs to be addressed.
Thanks again for stopping by!
Ken:
You’ve done it again. Amazing post. In answer to your question of how people have dealt with these behaviors in others, I thank my wife for pointing out some of these things in me. I went cold turkey on cussing a while back. I found it easier to try to completely eliminate those words from my vocabulary than to just try to stop using them when things got heated. I’m so glad I did that. Now I feel there is no need for those words (they seemed useful to me for many years – in fact, decades.) And I feel that my stamp on the world is a better one now. That’s one example.
Thanks again.
Best regards,
David
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Thanks David. That’s funny, my wife says that about me all the time! 😉
What a great point you make. It’s precisely in the heat of the moment, that our worst communication habits can bite us hardest. But swearing just doesn’t do anything for a rational, caring response to differences of opinion.
Thanks so much for that example, David. Makes it a lot easier to steer your kids in that direction too.
PS: Hey David, I gotta apologize to you. I had misplaced your book and couldn’t find it for several months (or so) and just recently found it at work (just two days ago, I think). I had forgotten that I took it there to finish the last couple chapters. So anyway, just letting you know I haven’t forgotten or dismissed you; just embarrassed I couldn’t find it for so long! Shouldn’t be long now before I get it reviewed here. I have several posts lined up, but I’ll let you know when it goes live.
Ken,
Thanks so much for your note. Gave me a chuckle.
That’s great. Looking forward to it. 🙂
Best regards,
David
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I thought it might! 🙂
What an amazing post. I found this blog seeking some reasons to why I’m feeling so hypersensitive right now (again). I’m more self-aware than I was yesterday, but I seem to backslide from time-to-time. When my emotions take the wheel, I get off course.
I don’t mean to be an emotional bully, but I learned from the best! LOL. In my relationship, I’ve had to set boundaries because of my partner’s jealousy. But I’ve taken things a bit far, to the point that I’ve put the gag on him almost completely, even when he just wants to express his thoughts. The pendulum has swung from me taking the healthy step of ensuring he owns his own thoughts and feelings to lashing out at him for “making me crazy” with his jealousy.
Thanks for this. It’s been really helpful. There’s no right or wrong here, other than ensuring that I’m aware of when I’m trying to be “right!”
Thanks so much for saying so Crystol!
I’m just thrilled you found something of value here. Looking clearly into our own souls can be a little disheartening at times, right? But self-awareness is the critical first step to personal growth and I’m so happy you’re taking steps in that direction.
It’s a challenging process but can be so thrilling if we approach it with the right attitude. Some people condemn themselves into it with lots of self-abuse. But to explore ourselves and move forward with an anticipatory attitude of exploration and discovery, almost like we’re exploring a new land, overcoming it’s sometimes hostile landscape, climbing mountains and forging a new path, then personal growth becomes a challenging adventure instead.
On another note, jealousy can be extremely difficult to deal with. It is such a draining expression of insecurity imposed on the partner. Boundaries are important to set (assuming the jealousy isn’t the result of behavior that encourages it). But I’m so glad you see the need to scale back the lashing out.
So pleased the post provided some help, Crystol. Hope to hear how things improve over time.
Oh my God I wouldn’t picture myself that today I got 2 know that I’m an emotional bully… such a recognition…
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Haha! We do walk through so much of life with blinders on, don’t we! Sometimes it takes someone else to hold the mirror up for us to recognize something off balance in the reflection. Glad to be the mirror holder if it means a happier relationship because of it! 🙂
Nice post. You put a lot of work into it and it shows.
I often think about something which ties in with the themes of your article and that’s the idea that your actions give the other person a green light to behave a certain way. Take for example, 6 and 7;
Lets say that you are using profanity or raising your voice to dominate yourself over someone. By doing this yourself that person will now feel vindicated to respond in the same manner. This is why arguments escalate so quickly. You raise your voice, they raise their voice, you raise it louder etc etc.
This goes on until the less dominant of the two feels intimidated and has to stop.
This can spread to any area where your behaviour may influence someone else. Relationships, at work, in your social group etc etc.
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Love the point you make, Jamie!
It’s so true that once we violate rules of civil discourse, it gives a sort of implied permission for the other to do likewise, and sometimes even justifying upping the ante. Of course it doesn’t really, but we human folk are so good at justifying next steps. But anger added to anger does not a good relationship make!
And it certainly does apply to every relationship. Thanks for showing up and making that connection, Jamie. Much appreciated!
What a great post, Ken.
After being bullied in my younger life, I swore to myself I wouldn’t be that person. I’ve read your article and am happy to say I’m quite the opposite. I don’t bully others.
I also see bullies for what they are because I’ve had a lot of experience dealing with this sort of thing. The only thing I disagreed with is the fact that some bullies come from very privileged backgrounds. They’re so accustomed to having what they want, that they bully others in order to maintain this sort of lifestyle.
When mum and dad are no longer there to give them their way, they seek it through bullying.
Many people with my background (whom I’ve met) are trying desperately to get away from emotional bullying in their lives because they know the damage it can do.
I didn’t get to the end of the post, so will have to come back to finish it.
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You’re so right, Anne, many bullies do come from privileged backgrounds. Still, the stats do suggest that more often than not, they don’t. Be either way, bullying can’t be tolerated. People simply have a right not to be pushed around. I experienced some bullying in elementary school as well. It’s not fun, to say the least.
The bully and the bullied have diminished lives of limited happiness. But the bully is responsible for extending any misery he or she feels to others. I guess that’s why I wrote this post, to shine a light on its importance in hopes that some (or lots!) will see the damage they may be imposing and make some changes.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience, Anne!
Thanks, Ken, for taking the time to respond to my comment personally. That’s remarkable! 🙂 Working through my partner’s jealousy issues has made me a better, more accountable person. It isn’t easy, but we made a pact to work very, very hard on this relationship and are succeeding beyond my expectations. But being a highly emotional person, I need to be careful to avoid pendulum swings, which I think can lead to emotional bullying. I feel deeply and strongly, but am still learning how to choose what I do with my feelings that doesn’t involve lashing out or the opposite, burying them. Bullying occurs from reacting in the moment without prudence and without thought and is expressed as an attempt to control someone else’s feelings when you can’t (or won’t) control your own. I desire to be different, to vent/feel in a controlled way, and I know I’m fully capable. I just need ongoing practice in real situations. I’ve discovered I can articulate well my understanding of self-awareness, self-mastery, contentment, etc., but require further work to live what I understand.
Thanks again for so many great articles!
So I just got to kno that I am an emotional bully… so what?:)
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Haha! Nothing, I suppose, if being an emotional bully is something you’re fine with. 🙂
Kidding aside, I really do think most of us want to live better lives, be better people, more loving, kinder, more decent. Overcoming the tendency to emotionally bully others is a huge step in that direction.
Then you should work on yourself Anna before emotionally or physically harming someone close to you. Knowledge is power so now you have some knowledge…
I knew that my husband of some thirty odd years was passive-aggressive, but I never likened this behavior to bullying. I regret having spent too many years with him in an effort to discuss, argue, gain understanding, and work through our difficulties; but nothing ever worked because he would not allow himself to be transparent. Nothing I ever said made sense to him or, according to him, I never stated things correctly. If I dared to express myself, I would get the endless silent treatments, never knowing what I had done or why. If he couldn’t bully me personally, he would remove my things from the garage and place them where black widows would infest them or place his heavy tools on my workout bench. He would continuously “drop” and leave my shower gel and the like on the bathtub floor. In addition, there were too many times throughout our relationship where he would put me in the path of harmful bug spray, or where I would find a long nail on the side of the bed where I slept. He had secret bank accounts and I would discover money and checks in places hidden around the house. We would be freezing or boiling, in the house, depending upon the weather, and he would refuse to replace the heating/air-conditioning unit. He made more than enough money to replace them. Instead, he would carry around his personal space heater wherever he went.
According to him, there was always something wrong with me. So, our discussions and arguments mainly turned into circuitous frustrations. The last several years we were together were dotted with abusive-escalating behavior on his part, with screaming, threats of bodily injury to me, a threat of suicide, a bruise, throwing things, because I dared to no longer be bullied. I refused to shut the ____ up as he had screamed in my face and stated he was going to knock me through the _____ window. I was just plain tired of it all and told him so.
I separated myself from him, emotionally and physically by dwelling in a different part of the house. I was taking a stress management class which taught me about the cycle of abuse. I asked the prof if this separation could put a halt to the cycle and she stated that perhaps it could. So, I kept our relationship as close to the honeymoon stage as possible, until I was ready financially to make a move. This continued for approximately five years. Interestingly enough, much of the bullying was halted, except the occasional silent treatments, which didn’t matter (as he soon found out) because he was stewing alone. If he insisted upon discussing anything, I would leave the house, so as not to fall into a domination trap. I just wanted him to leave me alone. Once, I told him that he was trying to close the door to the barn after the horses had escaped. He said he was trying to gather them up and bring them home. So, I told him, “They didn’t want to come home.”
Our last resort was marriage counselling which he set up. When the counselor asked why we were there, my husband stated he wanted me back; I stated that I was done with the relationship and needed validation for how I felt. When he took his bullying into the sessions with lies and denials, my decision to separate was sealed. I felt there was no hope. I needed to be free for my physical, mental, emotional and spiritual safety. When the counselor would not be manipulated, he promptly stood and ended the sessions. I was emotionally twisted after realizing the extent he would go through to protect himself. He would never truly care about me nor the relationship. Thanks be to the counselor, however, who saw through his facade and lent validity to how I was feeling.
I only regret that I endured the endless silent treatments, manipulation, domination, and intimidation for so many years. It left me resentful, regretful and otherwise unsympathetic, uninterested and emotionally spent in terms of our marriage. Not only that, but I feared for my safety. His passive-aggressiveness left me in a continual fight or flight mode. When I told him I wanted a divorce, it wasn’t a threat or bullying; I meant it and I left only because he would not leave. The last straw was when he falsely imprisoned me in our bathroom by remaining in the doorway where I could not get out. This action, devastated my adult daughter who saw he had a small screwdriver hidden in his had (He had used it to unlock our bedroom door). After that, I (and my daughter) was gone in two months! The way he had dominated my self worth was over. I freed myself from tyranny and I have no regrets with regards to my decision.
My separation from him has been for eight months. It has been many years since I have felt such peace. However, your comments to Sam have caused me to face the realization that I need to pro-actively work through the resentments, regrets, fear, and anger I still harbor. I know the first step is forgiveness. I am still a work in progress. Thank you for this article. You are a very generous person, Mr. Wert.
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I’m so thankful you shared your story here, Eff.
Life is all about learning from the trials and challenges we are faced with and coming out on the other end something better than we were before. I don’t believe life or God arranges everything we experience, but that even those trials we create for ourselves and those imposed on us by others can be profoundly educational.
When we pick up on and digest these lessons, our adversities take on meaning and purpose. Then we can even learn to appreciate the lessons learned, even if not the way we went about learning them.
I’m so happy you were able to get out of an abusive relationship, Eff. That’s important for your daughter as well. It’s also important to talk to her openly about what happened and why it was critical to leave, that your self-respect prevented you from accepting the indignity of his abuse. Having seen what she saw and having grown up (to whatever age she was when you left) within that environment, there is an increased likelihood that she may duplicate the kind of relationship you had with your ex. It’s certainly not inevitable, but those conversations are important to have to validate her right to leave any relationship as she’s dating that start showing signs of bullying.
You’re a courageous woman, Eff. I appreciate that so much. I love that you tried to improve things to the best of your ability and when things grew intolerable, you made plans to protect yourself and your daughter. About having waited so long, just think of the things you learned and now the life that stretches before you. Filled with opportunity, certainly more challenges to learn from and a life of personal growth.
Congratulations, Eff. I wish you wonderful things for you and your girl as life unfolds around you!
Hi there I just found this article and am truly grateful for the ideas you have posed. I feel my daughter is an emotional bully, as it seems she feels inadequate toward her younger brother and sister. She hurts feelings, puts them down, and otherwise competes/exerts her authority at every opportunity. What suggestions do you have for a parent that wants to increase her daughter’s self esteem and teach better ways to interact with her siblings?
That must be hard to watch happen, Lydia. The first thing, is to protect the bullied. You are absolutely right that bullies feel inadequate and jealous, insecure and fear. Bullying is an emotionally crippled way of dealing with these feelings. But the bullied still must be protected first.
There are some good organizations that help with bullies. I would encourage you research some of them. They are all online and can be easily found that way.
A few things you might try in the meantime, is to load you bullying daughter up with as much love and attention as you have energy for. Be sure she doesn’t see it as a reward for the bullying, though. What I would likely do is sit down and talk with her. Let her know what you’re thinking and feeling and hope to accomplish. And listen to what she says. Try not to interrupt and take over the conversation or redirect it or correct her misconceptions. Just hear her. Deeply. Let her know she can’t treat her siblings the way she has been and that you have to protect their self-esteem and self-worth too. Not knowing your daughter, you would be best at deciding what kinds of consequences should be applied to help nudge her in the right direction. And when you hear things heat up, step in early and defuse the situation, trying to avoid the very language and volume you hear in her toward them.
What you also might want to think about doing is set up regular mother-daughter dates with just you and her to go to the movies, the beach, out to eat, the park, to a concert, wherever circumstances and means allow. Knowing how valued she is may go a long way to no longer feeling she has the need to feel better by cutting her siblings down.
Good luck! Let me know how things go. BTW: So sorry for the delayed reply!
Oh my heavens – what an illuminating article. Scary, but illuminating. After nearly 15 years, I am confronted with the realization that I am married to an emotional bully: he is always right, my efforts to explain / discuss are “only excuses for my behavior,” “If I really loved him…” has made regular appearances, doors slammed, fists against walls (never hitting me but I have often wished he would hit me so I could justify calling the police and throwing him out), silence treatment and sulking that lasts WEEKS (we took a family trip to Europe last winter with our pre-school aged kids and he barely spoke to me the entire 2-week trip – thank heaven I am able to manage the kids on my own!), frequent implications that he is suicidal (which has been happening since about 6 months into our marriage), etc. I try to avoid responding, reacting or fighting back anymore, and do my best to protect myself and the children from the emotional eggshells & rollercoaster rides. I guess I am not crazy after all… thank you!
Sounds rough. And no, sounds like you are definitely not crazy. But please remember that emotional bullying is a reflection of the emotional quicksand he’s stuck in, not your deficiency. It’s so hard to keep that clear in our minds when going through it, but it’s really important not to get pulled into the quicksand with the bully.
Would he be open to marriage counseling? If so, I would highly recommend it. It’s not good to be in a relationship where you have no voice and he needs to know how you feel about it. Of course, you know him best and know whether he would become physically violent with you if confronted that way, so use good judgment. But voices start to shrink and fade when they’re not used over time.
Please let me know how things go as you try to get the help you need. Keep in mind that most bullies bully because they are loaded with all kinds of insecurities and fears. Still, this should never excuse any kind of bullying, emotional or otherwise. PS: Sorry for the late reply.
This was perfect. I am ashamed to admit that I am the bully. But after reading this and seeing how true it is, I am even more eager to get help and fix what I have broke. Thank you.
Remember, Amber, that recognizing a problem exists is the first step to solving it. So don’t despair, just start working on becoming more open to others and their points of view, even if they seem to discount yours. So happy you are so eager to fix things. Sorry for the tardy reply here, by the way. Have you been able to work on it much? Do you feel things are improving? I would love to know .. and maybe help if things are still the same.
I dont own my own website, so I had to post a random one in the box; your box required that I post one in order to type my message here. (This isn’t the normal requirement for posting on web pages.)
I dont understand your statement/paraphrased: ‘It’s not what’s in the heart of the bully that matters, only what their actions look like.’ Of course I logically understand it, but now emotionally, empathetically. Of course what’s in the bully’s heart matters. It’s probably the most important aspect of the whole encounter.
Additionally, this article is written, to be clear, from a black/white perspective, as if one arguer can be the bully, and the other arguer can be the innocent victim- aka the one who is submitting ideas to be aired and who only desires free speech.
I can attest that in some instances, covert emotional bullying can be acted out over a span of years against a partner before that partner responds to that bullying. The covert bullier never has to admit to her bullying over the span of those years. Thus, the partner receiving the bullying does not respond or confront her….until the covert bullier one day goes too far: abandoning, rejecting, neglecting her partner all in one evening. Since the bullying this partner does is covert, she continues to act covertly through lying, denying, covering up, hiding, ignoring and running away when she is finally confronted by her partner for her bullying. Thus the emotional abuse which the partner has received is now compounded 3x. That’s “what’s in the bullier’s heart”. At this time, and as this time only, does the partner cry, display yelling, display cursing, display ‘immature behavior’. It’s years worth of mistreatment coming to the fore. But it’s in response to the blind ear that was turned to her by her partner when she confronted her partner for her abuse. There’s no recommendation in this article about what to do when you confront a blind ear-bully. A bully that denies everything, lies, then runs away. Especially if that bully is the love of your life. Yes, that’s what’s in the heart of the bully. A desire to save the relationship, with a surprise of being bullied even more in response. If love is what’s in the heart of a bully, if the desire to save the relationship is what’s in the heart of the bully, then I think we need to redefine the concept of “what’s in the heart of the bully doesnt matter- it’s just if they are yelling that matters”. of course there’s pain and baggage in the bully’s heart, why do you think they’re crying? This does not mean we should dismiss this pain as ‘immature’. So, I yelled, cursed, and cried when I confronted my bully for her bullying behavior- but I only did it because she ignored, denied, and lied, and ran off when I confronted her. I was trying to save our relationship, our trust. I had love in my heart and I had good reasons to yell, both at the same time. So if the defining action of what makes a bully is if she ‘yells and curses’ then I guess that makes me one. But I really have to say that I believe that it’s not yelling and screaming that makes a person a bully, it’s the motivation in their heart. I was in love and trying to save that. If that’s bullying, then please, please let me be a bully!! It means that my heart is alive and wont be knocked down.
Nor is it a requirement here, Bluejay. The website is optional for those who want a link from mine to theirs. You could have left it blank. Many do. Sorry for the confusion though.
I think you may have missed the point of the article. None of what I say above has anything to do with a fight or a conflict or an event or even necessarily a string of events and conflicts. It has to do with a way of communicating, a habitual response to people who disagree with them. Someone who blow up when they find out a spouse has cheated is not behaving like a bully. Someone who finally stands up to “covert” bullying (though I must admit I’m not sure what covert bullying is–may be obvious to others, but never heard of it and can’t readily conceive of it), and in the process of standing up to the bullying of another, yells or curses, is not necessarily bullying either.
Rather, it is those people who use their responses to disagreement as a way to get the other person to back down and allow the emotional bully to get their way … again.
So I think you may have completely missed the train on this one. Its easy to do, I suppose. But when I say the heart of the bully is irrelevant, I’m talking about defining bullying behavior as bullying nonetheless. In other words, the bully may feel they are yelling and screaming because they know their ideas are best, that the other person they are screaming at for disagreeing with them would be better off if they would just shut up and accept their point of view, as though their intention (what’s in their heart) changes the fact that they are emotional bullies. My comment had nothing to do with suggesting emotions don’t matter or that what is in the bully’s heart is irrelevant. Of course their emotions are at the root of their bullying. Just don’t deny being a bully if you are bullying even if the reasons are justified in your mind.
Hope this makes sense. Please feel free to reply to this explanation if I have failed to clarify adequately. In the meantime, my heart goes out to you. I truly hope things get better and the love of your life responds to your wake-up call.
By the way, I appreciate your frankness and the honest challenge to my thinking here. Once again, I hope I’ve done your challenge justice.
Covert bullying would involve emotionally abusive passive-aggressive statements and such. It also involves negating someone else’s feelings. Isolating the victim when the bully doesn’t get what he/she wants. Indifference. Disregard. Silence when one is pleased. Scornful looks. All smothered in a layer of “civility”. The “civility” gives the bully an illusion of being a superior, good person.
Civility and respect are two different things. Civility has to do with faux fronts and polite words. Unspoken attitudes often speak louder than the words.
Emily, I think what you’re talking about is manipulation. While bullying may often involve manipulation, that doesn’t necessarily make all manipulation bullying. Both are detrimental to communication, but bullying is a very specific and overt act.
Both are also forms of abuse, but this article appears to be talking about this specific kind.
I don’t know specifically what you’re referring to when you say “isolating the victim”, but most of the things you mentioned are things that could easily be construed very differently. Is someone not allowed to be silent when they’re pleased? Looking at someone in a particular way (in this case scornful) is not necessarily bullying either. People also have every right to look at someone however they wish. Could it be disrespectful? Absolutely! But only a bully would say that the target of their behavior deserved to be yelled and screamed at because they felt disrespected. In fact, that’s classic bully behavior.
There could be an entire book written on the various forms of emotional abuse, but know this much: no one is responsible for anyone else’s behavior but their own.
Hi again enjoying reading all the responses. I think we all behave badly at times and have innate self protective mechanisms that can exhibit as bullying tactics. None of us is perfect here. The main point I think is chronic emotional buulies do not recognise their behaviour as bullying and consider their intentions to be good. Listening to that inner voice is a good balance because inwardly most people will know if their behaviour has been hurtful. If not then the next challenge is to really hear from someone who has been hurt by your actions . I know from personal experience acknowledging these things and choosing to act positively and with love takes courage. To see the worst in ourselves and to accept that without responding with self loathing also takes courage. To feel the love from others when you have behaved badly is liberating and humbling. Love and forgivenesss are healing for both bully and the bullied.
Your article is spot on. It describes my wife exactly. She is from a broken home and was previously married to an alcoholic. I can’t stick up for myself because she trapped me with kids. She screams swears and belittles me sometimes in public. She is vile. She will cry and throw the remote. I would love to leave but trapped financially and because of the kids. she refuses to admit she has a problem even her mother tells her.
I totally understand what you’re saying, Andrew. I would just caution you on how you refer to your kids. When you say she trapped you with kids, even if you don’t really mean it the way it sounds or even if that is what she literally did (tricked you into getting her pregnant), the words you use fashions in large measure the feelings you have about them. They are the most innocent “victims” in any relationship. Be sure to think of them as cherished souls, perhaps the one redeeming part of your current relationship. You’re not trapped by them, you are with them in the same boat. Your number one responsibility to to protect them, love them, adore them, forgive and teach and guide and cherish them.
Okay, perhaps too much for what may have been a so-called throw-away line, but it stuck out and felt the need to address it.
It seems to me that you have two options. One is to leave. The financials are real obstacles, no doubt. But if leaving is the correct decision, there are likely ways of doing that. Maybe staying with a parent while you get back on your feet, or moving into a low income district or a studio apartment. But if that’s not an option (for the kids’ sake or whatever), then you have to start small in hopes of building something at least tolerable.
In the article, I suggest writing your thoughts down instead of verbally addressing an issue. It may be extremely difficult to bite your tongue and remain silent while she goes off on yet another tangent (or whatever). But try it. Then write out your response.
In just a sentence or two, tell her why you’re writing this instead of talking to her about it. No harsh condemnations (even though you feel that inside). Remember the reason for the letter. It’s not to vent or to finally tell her how vile you think she is. It’s to claim the right to speak. It’s to avoid the emotional fallout that generally occurs with verbal interactions.
Then, in a respectful “tone” tell her your opinion of things. Tell her there’s no need to reply, that you just wanted her to know your side of the issue, that you respect her enough to open up to her this way.
Let this be how you respond to her … at first. Then, when you feel this first step has worked, ask for her response to what you said … in writing. She may not write it out. She may ignore it. Or she may throw the remote and yell and scream again. Don’t back down. Remain silent, nodding as needed. Then write another note explaining briefly why you’re writing it (respectfully, but truthfully: to avoid more emotionally damaging fallout for the relationship and the children–assuming they’ve been around for the fights in the past). Then try again the next time.
As the letter writing campaign starts to calm things down, try short conversations in public. Sometimes emotional bullies feel safest bullying within the walls of their own home, on their own turf. Open a dialogue about something that has not worked out well for you in the past in a public setting (perhaps a restaurant). But do it calmly, matter-of-factly, but not robotically. What I mean is to try to keep your cool. Be attuned to her emotions, but share your thoughts. If things start to heat up, change the subject or let her have the last say.
I know this sounds unfair. It is. But short-term wins can lead to long-term losses just as short-term sacrifices can lead to long-term wins. Remember, you’re trying to retrain someone who has a history of abuse and emotional problems. When you talk with her, it appears you’re talking to an adult. But you’re not. She is an emotional child, never having been allowed to mature and grow up in the past. That part is not her fault. It is her responsibility now though. But the reality is that she is still emotionally immature. So lead her step by step as you might lead a child.
Another tactic might be to get therapy yourself. Sometimes spouses will refuse therapy for themselves thinking they are going to get “fixed”. But to go with you for your own journey, well, I can help him “get fixed.” And once there, a good therapist can weave her into the discussions in subtle and nonthreatening ways.
Good luck, Andrew. I wish the best for you and the kids.
My partner ticks so many of these boxes, he questions why I don’t talk to him about issues but when I have in the past it’s just him standing up and ranting and putting me down for a good solid hour, and when I try to defend myself he throws a tantrum and stalks off.
So sorry, Tara. Emotional prison is a hard sentence to endure. And the fact is, you shouldn’t have to. I just finished writing a lengthy response to the previous comment, some of which may pertain to you too. His name is Andrew. Please read his comment and my reply to it. It’s just way too long to repeat here. 😉
In essence, I suggest the same thing I suggested to him: if verbal communication doesn’t work, try written communication as a sort of training ground to get him to “hear” and accept and respect your opinion. Be sure to tell him (in the letter) why you’re writing, that you’re afraid it will escalate into put downs, yelling, tantrums and the like. Don’t use this time to tell him why he’s so horrible for making you feel this way or that (that is a conversation that has to happen, but not initially. Right now, at first, you’re just introducing him to another opinion in a less-threatening way).
Again, for further explanation, please read my response to Andrew’s comment.
Sometimes overcoming the hardest things makes us the strongest people. Give it a try, Tara. No one should be emotionally imprisoned anywhere, especially in their own home.
Amen. I just spent 15 years with an emotional bully. Then he asked me for a divorce. I said..ok. As IF I would have argued. I lost every other conversation/opinion, like/dislike. I love him. I do not want a divorce but My GOD I was exhausted from the barrage of hate. I am loyal to this marriage and I understand that extreme people have extreme reasons but I am taking this time to…do what I want. Say what I want. Like what I want. Eat what I want. Sleep, go to work, enjoy a conversation with other humans. Ugh,,,,emotional bullies should come with a remote control. Sometimes, I just wanted to SHUT IT OFF. He left me for another woman who dumped him soon after I found out. So, that’s my fault too. LOL I say this without sarcasm, I have laughed (not in his face) at this whole fiasco because I am too tired of crazy to allow a response. I fell like a defeated Mum at the playground who is watching her spoiled brat scream in her face and she is too tired to bother saying anything to him. Auto Pilot.
Haha! “Emotional bullies should come with a remote control.” I love that line, Lauren. And congratulation on your new-found freedom! Sounds like a non-response is the perfect way to say, “No more crap. I’m done.” So keep eating what you want, sleeping when you want and speaking your mind. Enjoy the sunlight. Refreshing, isn’t it!
My husband is an emotional bully and I have only just realised. I have been subject to years of it. Having read the post I now wonder if I too am an emotional bully. I have had years of not been heard and understood, shouted down in arguments, and now find myself fighting back and am worried that I am now using many of the same bullying tactics. I spent years explaining and justifying my husbands behaviour to myself and others. I get the blame for everything. If I disagree I am confronted by a wall of shouting until I stop an give in. My marriage is on its last legs and it is not what I want. I want to understand what is happening in the way we respond to each other. I suppose my question is can you respond to an emotional bully by becoming an emotional bully?
Yes, Nikki, you can respond to an emotional bully by becoming one. The only problem is that it usually doesn’t work. It only justifies the emotional bullying in the mind of the bully and intensifies the confrontation. Sometimes emotional bullies turn into physical ones when they feel pushed into a corner (even if there is no corner to be pushed into–their perception is what they are experiencing).
You may want to try what I’ve suggested above on a couple of comments (Andrew and Tara specifically). During a disagreement, when he goes ballistic, say something to the effect that you won’t participate in a shouting match, that he has no right to bully you into submission and walk away (leave the house and go on a walk or to a friend’s or family member’s house (not to talk about him, but to separate yourself from him). Call and ask if it’s safe to come home yet after an hour or so. If he starts yelling again, calmly tell him, “I guess not.” and hang up. Call back again later and ask if it’s safe. Repeat for as long as is necessary. Then go home and let him know you’re not there to talk about it. Then write him the latter as detailed in my comment to Andrew (see a few comments above yours).
I can’t guarantee this will work, but it may. You do need to know whether there is any possibility of violence, though. If there is, use caution. The bottom line is that there is no reason to stay in a family where you are subjected to harm. And parents who stay together in violent circumstances for the kids don’t realize they are teaching the kids how to treat or be treated. Never teach that lesson.
Good luck trying to deescalate the tantrums. Just be sure you’re not giving in to them as well–even though it may seem justified. In the end, they probably won’t produce the results you are hoping for.
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11 out 15, it looks like I’m an emotional bully too. I think it’s true, I tend to explode quite easily, and I have a level of patience that is just below nil. The interesting part is that, while I don’t expect to be justified, I think I know where I “learned” such behaviour: I was raised in an environment with a high level of threats, verbal abuse (I got shouted at, insulted, called “useless” and “parasite” by my parents) and physical violence (I was beaten by my parents and classmates all the way through school). Cherry on the top, in the town where I grew up, a child who was getting beaten so hard “just got what he deserved, because he must have been bad, mean and stupid”. When I managed to achieve some good results, the feedback was “I’m disappointed, that’s insignificant, don’t expect to be praised.”
I “survived” by keeping my profile extremely low. Since I could never gain anything good, the best I could hope for was to go unnoticed. For many years I lived in fear, convinced that all the bad things were my fault, as the useless thing I was. Then, one day (which I clearly remember, as I will never forget the feeling), something clicked and I got a rebound effect that turned me inside out.
As a result:
– I don’t have any true friend or buddy. None, zero, nil.
– I don’t trust anybody, because I feel they will disappoint me, they will make fun of me, or they will try to backstab me.
– My tolerance is extremely low. Exactly like my parents’.
– I set my own expectations very high on everything, which brings back the “I’m disappointed” I heard myself for 20 years.
– I’m a “master” of negative reinforcement. I was told all the time that I was just useless cr.p, and I fought harder every day to prove the opposite, and I tend to think that it’s the way things work.
– I just like to be left alone when I’m tired or stressed (i.e. most of the time), and sometimes I wish that the world got out of my way. I’m probably one of the few people who empathises with the character played by Michael Douglas in “Falling Down”. Every time I see it, I think “I think you should not do that, but I understand why you do and how you feel.”
– I don’t remember waking up once in my life and feeling rested. Some people told me that I give the impression of sleeping with one eye open, just in case the enemy breaks through. They may be right.
Despite being a horrible emotional bully, I still have to praise myself for something: I never used physical violence on anybody. Sometimes I felt the need to, but I didn’t. Somehow, I like to think that this is proof that I can be better than the people who mistreated me for twenty years. A little light of hope. 🙂
Well, bullies love to disappoint and humiliate people as well as backstab them which I love to do a lot since I witnessed my own mother abusing my father and the whole family. Of course, no one trusts bullies at all and sometimes they are often seen as having Asperger’s or autism because they function differently from others. Yes, those types of people are mean and cruel to others by putting them down to show how powerful and indestructible they are. I know arrogant bullies get bullied back so easily for bullying and manipulating others aggressively. It stinks to want to strive for power for yourself and over others because others are so easily offended.
Oh Didakos, what I hate most are parents who never do anything about their personal flaws and abuse their own kids as a result. What I love are people who have flaws and look for answers, for ways of overcoming and improving and turning their flaws into strengths.
There’s no doubt that you’re right about where your challenges come from. And you’re right that the past doesn’t justify the future (even though it does explain it). But what it does justify is the fact of the challenges. Your difficulties with patience and anger etc, are not your fault. But like you imply, remaining that way indefinitely is not justified by the fact of your personal history. That’s why I love that you read and commented here. Those who have weaknesses and do nothing have embraced their weaknesses and have essentially proclaimed to the world that they are who they are and the world better adapt to their impatience and anger. But it seems that you are looking for ways to transcend. And that’s worthy of a ton of respect. I also love that you have not allowed yourself to descend into physical abuse. That too is worthy of praise and you’re right to praise yourself for that.
The results of the abuse you sustained over time is not uncommon. But I hope you are actively learning and growing. Just be sure to choose one characteristic to work on at a time. To try to “get better” generally is to overwhelm yourself into not growing much at all. Just choose one thing (most effective growth comes from developing a strength rather than overcoming a weakness–studies have shown repeatedly that people who focus on strengths reach more of their goals more often than those who focus on changing a weakness) and then go to work on that until you have developed it to a predetermined level (short of perfection!). Then go to the next.
Read. Become well informed on what you’re trying to do. There are scores of books, articles and personal stories out there of people starting from where you are, climbing those mountains in their lives and succeeding tremendously at living life beautifully. Good luck with the journey and sorry for the delayed reply.
Thank you for the article it has really opened my eyes. I’m very disappointed in myself for being a horrible person but This article gives me a chance to better myself as a person as well a husband.
Step one comple. The reality of the way I am. From here on although it might be tough things are going to get better. Thank you for posting.
Dave, you are a light on the horizon! Sorry it’s taken so ling to reply, but hope things have improved. It’s so easy to slip back into old habits, though. If that has happened, be sure to recommit. You may have a life-time of developing the habits you have recently recognized are sabotaging your relationships, so sustained effort is required to sort of “reprogram” you character. If you stumble, it’s not the end of the world. Just get back up and keep working at working things out. Get whatever help is needed. There is a great book called “The Power of Habit” that can help (again, if relapse has been a problem).
Also remember that while there are different levels of abuse and some levels require answering legally for your behavior as the most responsible thing one can do, I’m assuming yours is short of criminal, so be sure to keep in mind that we are more than our weaknesses. There is likely lots that is very good about you, so don’t lose sight of the good even though there may be some serious issues you need to focus on.
Good luck on your journey, Dave! Let me know how you’re doing. I promise not to miss your comment this time and let so much time go by before replying!
Hi Ken,
My in-laws bullied my husband (while he was growing up) and subsequently, they bullied me.
One thing you did NOT consider that you might want to. . . Some bullies act with a silent, prideful indifference when they’ve been respectfully confronted with their behaviors. And sometimes these bullies adorn themselves in a cloak of “faux” civility after they have worked their victims over to the point the victims feel powerless and end up behaving in unseemly ways due to immense frustration. They seem to derive pleasure from the control and manipulation. They enjoy seeing the little creature they’ve harmed go into crazy behavior that makes the little creature look out of control while they are totally in control.
That’s what my in-laws did to my husband. That’s what they did to me.
And sometimes, the bullying victim has to yell at, take a very bold and strong stand, and let the “winged flying monkeys” loose. And then, the bullying victim should totally disconnect themselves from any bully who has been respectfully confronted but never responded with any concern for the victim’s feelings.
Emotional violence can take the place in some very insidious forms. You failed to include that in your lists.
Wow, thank you for this post. I am being bullied by my husband so completely that I have no voice. Most of the time I disengage because really there is nothing to say, the only thing that matters is the way he defines everything.
I feel hope when I think of leaving and being my own person again, it’s really quite unbelievable how small his world is.
Hi, just wanted to say your post was very helpful and I’m glad I found it. I’m living with friends that I’m very close to and have always been hypersensitive and fearful of rejection due to my own experiences with being bullied at school, and witnessing my parents petty arguments. I have a fiery temper and cry easily in general, so it helps immensely to know what you’ve written. Luckily my friends and I all listen to each other and have healthy talks when there’s something that needs to be discussed. We’ve only had a few disagreements and with some of them I did get angry and went to my room and fumed about it. I will keep in mind what you’ve said about not relating an opinion to rejection. Thank you! 🙂
I came across this article when looking for advice on how to deal with the tattered remains of my relationship and I am afraid to say that I recognised a lot of these traits in myself. I was never aware that it might be me doing the emotional bullying and I am shocked and want to change it.
However, I am in a relationship with a boyfriend who is jealous, paranoid and controlling and who refuses to listen me when I try to reassure him that I would never cheat on him or even think about it. The accusations come out of nowhere and leave me feeling confused, angry and alone, and I find it very difficult to cope with the fact that he won’t listen to me or see sense or think rationally. I am very against cheating and believe that if a couple is going through problems they should talk through them and that if one feels the need to go elsewhere they should end it, so these accusations are like an attack on my entire personality. When I am accused I feel threatened and feel that my partner has no idea who I am and that he doesn’t even see me as a valid person. I have never cheated on him and have tried to treat him very well and always try to move on from these arguments. Just to describe briefly, the arguments have led to him throwing me out of the house in the middle of the night with nowhere else to go, breaking up with me and leaving me just in time for my 30th birthday and going through my email account looking for evidence against me (he found none).
I don’t deal with any of these problems well and I shout, scream, cry and generally do the things described in the article. Looking back on what has happened I honestly don’t think I ever did any of those things before his paranoia became such a problem, although I am aware that this may be my opinion and his opinion might be different.
Is there ever a situation when reacting in the ways described in this article can be acceptable or if not acceptable then maybe understandable??
I don’t have anyone to talk to about this. I want to stop the horrible pattern and stop this behaviour. I’m lost, so I’d love to hear some thoughts on this.
Kate, this reply is unforgivably late, but you can’t marry this guy and you can’t stay with him. If he is paranoid and jealous now, he will still be so in the future, married or not. Get out and get away. It’s not your job to fix him. It’s not your job to stay with someone who cannot trust you. Think about the kind of father he will be. Think about the lack of respect he must have to kick you out in the middle of the night. Think about your life forever with his jealousy and accusations and your anger and frustration and the screaming. If you stay with him, there will be no joy in your life. You should feel like your best self when you are with the guy you love. If not, he’s the wrong guy. H*is behavior is not acceptable. So don’t accept it. Seek help if you think he may turn violent, but you can’t stay.
Think about it this way: If you had a daughter in the same circumstances, what would you tell her to do? Now, do that.
I have been in a relationship for 11 years with a man whom I believe is a bully. If I disagree with him, he will use the silent treatment for weeks at a time. Just recently, he got angry at his job, walked out after only 5 weeks there. (Mind you he has spent the greater portion of our relationship unemployed) We had an argument about this as it is a pattern and financially the burden falls on me. He went out to his cousin’s and made sure to ignore me for 3 weeks. He posted nasty things on facebook and has seemed to make me the villain to his cousin and his wife as they are allowing him to stay on their couch, taking him out to dinner, letting him use their car…etc. I was ready to leave him this round but then he always seems to have a way to pull me back in. I am not sure why. I am a reasonably intelligent woman, who has a great job, owns her own house, and does get regular compliments from the opposite sex. I feels he will break me down until I feel like nothing and then somehow I am fighting to be back with him. I am not sure how to fight this cycle. I hide this from my family because I am mortified that I would allow someone to treat me this way and think that it is love.
I’m sorry to say, Ashley, but (assuming all you’ve said is accurate and not just one side of a complex story) you married an extremely immature man who is vindictive and emotionally abusive. If when you try to end it, he reals you back in and you feel embarrassed about this, I think it’s time you examine what it is about you that allows him to lure you back. When you can identify what your emotional need is, you can find another way to morally meet that need and be freer to let go of him. I’m just not sure how you can continue a relationship under such circumstances. One alternative semi-step to just ending your marriage, is to give him an ultimatum that he must start going to couples therapy if he is to stay. If he storms off and doesn’t come back for a week, sign up for the therapy sessions and let him know as soon as he returns when and where his first session will be. If he storms off again, cancel the appointment, let him know what awaits him, then let him know when he comes back when therapy will be. If he leaves again, kick him out and let him know he can only return when he shows up for his first session. This way, you are not leaving him; he’s deciding whether he wants to come back enough to accept therapy.
Of course, if he is not motivated to go for himself, there’s not much chance that he will do much changing. But it will at least give you some help sticking to the right course and him the opportunity to decide.
I wish you the best in a horrible set of circumstances, Ashley.
PS: Sorry I was so late in replying. Hope all finds you better off than when you wrote.
Great post.
This articulates a lot of things, and more or less confirms that I am married to an emotional bully.
I live with these points on almost a daily basis – swearing, interruptions, opinion not valued, fits when she doesn’t get her own way accompanied by tears, door slamming, bringing the children into argument, dragging up things from past, threatening to leave….
I do not know how to deal with it. Point 8 is a fantastic phrase, and exactly how she makes me feel
Marriage Guidance did not work, as she never ever admits any fault in her behaviour. Without acknowledgement there seems no way of going forward. It is always my fault.
if you have any advice..greatly appreciated
Hi, thank you so much for the article. It captures what is playing out in my home perfectly i think. I remarried 3 years ago to a man who has many positive qualities. ..the only thing is that he seems to dislike everything about my daughter, and the way I parent her. He has known her since she was 4, she’s 10 now, and each year the relationship seems to sour more. The more he insults, shouts, swears and callsnamesn tmore endiveve I become and the more the arguments escalate. I don’t know how to have the conversation with him to get him to see what he is doing. He wins all the arguments. How can I get a message through? I was thinking of forwarding your article to his email, but I think he’ll just dismiss it. I don’t know where to start. .
Sorry you’re going through this, Donna. Sometimes when men feel they have no control, like nothing they are doing has any positive effect, that helplessness can drive some to try harder to control and manipulate the desired outcome.
I think sending your husband this article is a good idea, but I wouldn’t send it yet. Perhaps the first step should be a hand-written letter from you to him. Letters can create an emotional distance that allows us to think about the thoughts being expressed rather then go into self-defense mode and miss the entire message.
I can’t tell you what to write, but I might start with something to this effect: “Our marriage depends on you reading this letter word by word and sincerely considering it’s content. I love you. But my first responsibility is to my daughter who preceded you. The reasons why the two of you don’t get along is largely irrelevant at this point. The only question is this: Now what? I need you to back down. I need you to release control to me. I know this goes against everything you believe, but you have to or we can’t remain a family. This is my girl. She is mine. I MUST be able to ensure she feels loved and accepted and valued. That’s not happening under the current set of circumstances. We can talk about this, but not to negotiate whether or not. Only how and to what degree. And the conversation MUST be civil and cooperative … and humble. This is what I need from you ….”
Then add whatever it is that you need him to stop or start doing in relation to your daughter.
Again, this is just what I would be inclined to do under similar circumstances. You would be better situated to know what may or may not work, but this may be a good starting point.
I wish you the best, Donna. Let me know how it goes (if you decide my suggestion is a good idea). If you suspect violence in any way, be cautious and get support, but you must leave. My prayers are with you.
This article is one sided and meant to take a “victim” view. I was an emotional bully for a large part of my 15 year marriage. It wasn’t until I went to marriage counseling that I was able to realize it. What I also learned in my counseling session was that my wife’s lack of support, honor and respect perpetuated my behavior. My bullying was infrequent in the early part of my marriage but as the lack of respect, honor and support continued my bullying became more frequent. Her behavior made me more insecure and damaged than I already was. In all relationships the behavior of both people define what that relationship will be most of the time. Both people need to work on building up the other person and making them feel secure and loved. Playing the victim role will only insure the relationship will worsen and fail. You article is doing a disservice to all that read it. My marriage has improved and the bullying has stopped because we are “BOTH” taking responsibility for the marriage and our own behavior. I also learned through counseling that you can change someone by giving them your honor, respect and support. Adults are no different that children. You give them praise, respect, encouragement, etc.. you shape them for the better. Give them blame, a lack of respect, lack of support and you shape them for the worse. That’s the truth. Don’t be a victim, be a loving and supportive spouse.
Very interesting perspective, John. So, an article that is centered on signs of emotional bullying and what the bully can do to stop, is somehow taking the victim view? The victim view is usually the position of “they” made me this way. “It’s not my fault! If only others would have or wouldn’t have done this that or the other thing, THEN I wouldn’t be this way,” is the typical refrain of the victim. How is this represented in what I wrote?
NEVER would I suggest that it is the fault of the bullied that he or she is bullied. If you bullied your wife, then YOU were the bully. We all choose how to react to the circumstances of our lives–both good and bad. Her lack of respect etc did not MAKE you bully her. THAT, my friend, is the victim mentality. You CHOSE to bully as a result of her not meeting your emotional needs. That is not only an emotional issue, it is a character flaw. “It’s your fault I bully you” is the classic justification for almost every bad behavior. “It’s her fault I raped her because of how she was dressed and how she walked. She was just asking for it!” That doesn’t fly here. The bratty child doesn’t MAKE his parents beat him. They beat because they are violent, undisciplined, impatient and crappy people. Now, they can stop being crappy people, of course, through hard work and character development, but don’t blame the child for his parents’ flaws.
I’m absolutely thrilled you stopped bullying your wife. I’m thrilled your relationship improved. I’m happy she has taken more responsibility for making your marriage work. That’s all good news. But I DO have a problem with the idea that she was responsible for your response, your emotional and/or character immaturity, for YOUR bullying. Self-responsibility is the exact OPPOSITE of victimhood. Your wife may have helped create an emotional climate, but you are responsible for how you act within that climate.
THAT is emotional, character and spiritual self-responsibility, again, the opposite of victimhood. By changing the outer environment (your wife’s respect and honor), you only removed the trigger. But the bullet is still loaded and the gun still fires. You changed the circumstances, but not the person inside. You stopped the engine light from going on, but still haven’t done anything about checking the engine under the hood, if you know what I mean. You have to improve the person under the hood so that if circumstances ever repeat themselves, you don’t descend into bullying once more. Become the kind of person who doesn’t bully and it won;t matter what happens externally, you still won’t bully because that’s not what you do when under stress.
Okay, I may have come out with both guns blazing on this one, but I would love to hear your thoughts on my reply. Again, I’m thrilled your relationship has grown and you’re not bullying anymore.
Dear Ken,
Thank you for the great post and the responses it has generated. This is not John, but I see he has not responded, however, I sympathize with many of his views, which you may have not appreciated fully.
I think he meant that in his situation both parties could be blamed for bullying. I think this describes my situation as well. I am married for twent-five years and love my wife who is intelligent, smart and beutiful and I cannot imagine my life without her. I am also attracted to her very much. Yet we have regular and frequent fights, in recent years increasingly. From my point of view, it starts that she blames me for something I do not deserve or I admit that I made a mistake but this does not satisfy her so she goes on and repeats the same blame. She also recalls things from the past making connections with the present situation. Then I respond with many of the things you describe. For many years I always looked at myself as the victim who has been tricked in to the fight by inappropriate comments, etc. I realized that I should also control myself, and I tried this by trying to be controlled and answering calmly. Sometimes this worked, but some other times it made the opposite effect and my wife responded with more blaming saying I paternalize or lecture her. I also admit that my threshold is low and perhaps these fights made me hypersensitive. From your post I realize I respond with the same tactics (or maybe I start them, who knows). The worst situation is when I want to be kind and positive with her but she refuses that without any apparent reason. If I feel being refused that makes me really scream and shout, eventhough I always regret this afterwards. Having read this and similar posts I want to control myself more of course, just it may not work. Really what I cannot tolerate is her emotional refusal. We discussed these things previously and it seemed to work to some extent but the effect was transient and the situation got even worse. I also have the feeling that when she blames me with crazy things there could be some other issues behind what but bothers her yet she does not mention them directly.
I felt that in many ways we are very similar and this has been the basis of our relationship. We share the same views in many things but it seems that we are similar in creating these fights as well.
Regards
Thank you for this article: so many articles don’t approach the subject with love and care, but rather “A- HA! You’re with a bully and here’s why”. Well, I know I am. But I love him fiercely and I recognise why he’s like he is: the extreme damage he has suffered (through no fault of his own). He has anger issues and does the silent treatment and needs things done his way .. all of the above pretty much.
But I am more than capable of holding my own: he doesn’t intimidate or scare me and I let the anger and silent treatment wash over me because he is SO worth waiting for. And he’s trying: he doesn’t yell anymore: he doesn’t throw insults at me anymore: he’s really trying. And he apologises now.
I just feel so sorry for him: the cards he was dealt. And I love him. And he loves me. So we’re working on it.
It’s exhausting and emotional and sometimes, yes, I get VERY angry. But I have sworn to meet anger with kindness and spite with gentleness and it’s working. It’s kind of empowering too: not entering that vortex of anger and back-and-forth. And as I say, it’s working. Is he worth it? Absolutely. He is (when he’s not feeling vulnerable and threatened) kind, generous spirited, so incredibly loving, patient, and will do anything for me.
Anyway, just thanks. It’s sometimes necessary to remind myself that there’s hope at the end of this journey. I just don’t believe in throwing something good away. We all have baggage right?
I have been told that i am an emotional bully. I did not believe it but when I read through your article, every single thing applied to me, i hope i can change before i loose my loved ones.
Sita, the first step to any personal growth and self-improvement is to recognize what needs to change. So I’m thrilled your eyes have been opened. Some people open them far too late, after marriages have fallen apart and children have fled and become estranged. So being able to see what needs addressing is a wonderful blessing. I wish you the best as you start this new adventure in your life. Remember to be patient with yourself as you work to improve. Be sure to also focus on just one or two problem areas. If you spread your energy and focus too wide, you may not get much of anything done. You might even want to call your family together, let them know of your discovery, apologize and ask for their patience as you start to build on strengths and overcome challenges.
Let us know how things progress, Sita! We’re rooting for you!
Great article. and thank you.
One of the worst aspects of emotional bullying is how invisible it is (to those outside – the bully is usually very careful to play their games only on those within their power), and also how you come to accept it as normal when your home life is so insular (which they actually contribute to by assisting to cut you off from others they perceive as a threat to their domination). You come to accept this behaviour as normal and so ‘play the game’ of defensiveness etc whenever you are confronted with it (which is everyday pretty much for me).
For the victims – I liken it to the story of the elephant calf who was chained to a small spike in the ground early in life, and then when it gets to be an adult, that same small spike can hold it because it knows no different.
My wife of 23 years is clearly an emotional bully and she ticks most of the boxes above – she can cry at will (but fake tears because she can change from this to attack in an instant), make you feel guilty frequently, point out you’re faults often, get angry at the drop of a hat, maintain angry silences for days and can never take even the slightest hint of critisism. I know she must be damaged inside and like it says above – it’s like her emotional maturity stopped in early age, but I am not responsible for that.
I am an adult and can (try at times) stand up for myself (with massive arguments and dramatics every time of course) but I am realising all too late what impact this has had on our two boys (now 18 and 16).
Part of the issue is that they know no different. They accept this situation as normal. Naturally, at every point I have tried to shield them but that generally turns into a greater heated argument. And to their credit, they are great kids and hopefully don’t repeat the bahavior….
One of the most frustrating things is the bully not being self aware (or not seemingly to be).
I am sick of feeling bad about myself. I am by nature a self critical person and I can tell you that the emotional bullying makes this worse – particularly when there is no equality with the other person unwilling to look at themselves critically and their own behaviour.
As mentioned, I am not so much concerned for me but for my sons who have lived with this all of their lives. The real insidious thing about this type of bullying is that you lose perspective on what life should be like and accept the way it is as the ‘new normal’.
But, I am beginning to wake up and I have shared this article with my boys – not in the hope that it creates division, but in the hope they can recognise the bahaviour for what it is.
No one wants to feel like they have failed in a relationship but there is little chance IMO that I will get my wife to recognise her bahaviour, let alone attempt change.
Compounding this – I am a gentle guy, and little equipped for this sort of warefare. Not saying I am a wimp in any way but I have been brought up to be nice, polite and considerate of others. I’m not sure how this upbringing has made me vulnerable to putting up with this behaviour so far but it has.
I will be doing something about it – despite the fact that I know it will leave my two beloved boys within her power. If nothing else, it will show them an example of not being willing to put up with this.
I just need some peace more than anything else and hopefully my boys can find some too (whether with me or otherwise going forward).
Sorry about the delayed reply here, Andrew. I have let my blog flounder a bit of late. But thank you so much for sharing your story here. Yours is a tough one, especially because you are leaving your boys with your wife. It may demonstrate that you won;t put up with the abuse, or it may be interpreted differently depending on the spin your wife puts on it. If she has full custody, my best guess is that everything you do or say to them will get filtered through her perspective.
I’m usually enthusiastic about encouraging people to get out of the prisons others have put them in, but your circumstance is much more complicated. It’s usually includes a call to save the kids from the others’ influence. But your decision to leave would put them more deeply under her influence. Yes, you have the right to be happy, to pursue that path, more precisely, but you also have an obligation to your boys. Where one stops and the other begins is a difficult question to answer.
There are also unanswered questions that need to be answered to get the best possible solution: Is your wife emotionally abusive to your boys too? Do you have the ability to have custody of them? Are there other steps that can bring her closer to recognition and change from where she’s at? Let your answers guide your decision.
In the end, you have a tough question to answer. I wish you luck and blessings as you figure out what is best for all people involved.
Hi Andrew, your post was so similar to my situation that I thought I written it myself! Even down to the numbers – my marriage is 23 years and I have boys of 18 and 16. I am gentle and tolerant by nature but my now ex-wife (she left me for someone else) is an emotional bully that ticks many of the boxes in Ken’s excellent article. We have been apart for almost 2 years and it has taken me this long (with a new relationship and therapy) to begin to stand up for myself when discussing the kids. Yet now I am expressing my opinions (where I never used to for fear of being shouted down) in a respectful and civil manner, she tells me I am harassing her and bullying her and that she will only talk to me with a mediator present! To me that is a classic case of bully projection – she is projecting her own bullying nature onto me and by making me out to be the bully, she is describing herself in the process.
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I too am an emotional bully. I only just realized a couple of months ago. After being victimized by my parents for about 20 years, it was hard to see myself as an aggressor since I’m so used to back-pedalling and making excuses for myself, but I am. My boyfriend of 3 years recently told me that he feels like there’s no room for him or his feelings in the relationship and that he feels very much alone, because while I recognized a couple of months ago that my behaviour wasn’t healthy, I’ve not done much to rectify the situation. Reading this article helped really drive the point. Thank you so much for writing it. I don’t want and never wanted to be cruel to him or to my friends. They all deserve better. I just hope it’s not too late. I want to be better, but sometimes it’s hard to know how.
Thanks so much for sharing this K. Recognition is the first step to improvement. Unfortunately, not everyone take the NEXT step in the process. I’m thrilled that my article may be the motivation needed to take that next step–to actually begin changing.
Here are some random thoughts on the topic:
1. Take it one step at a time.
2. It’s easier to develop positive traits than to end negative ones. Sometimes developing a positive trait will supplant a negative one.
3. Let your family, boyfriend and friends know you are going to commit to the necessary changes. This can help you feel a sense of accountability.
4. Make it a daily effort. When you stumble, get back up and keep at it. Don’t let failure “prove” you are incapable of long-term growth. You are capable.
5. Allow your friends and family to call you out when you are reverting to old behavior. Remember, you are the one behaving that way. They are not doing it, only calling you out for doing it.
6. Be patient. Big change can take a while. But if you approach the change with the attitudes I suggested above, it won’t take nearly as long as it would otherwise take.
Good luck, K. We’re rooting for you!
I can’t take it anymore I just wanna lay down and fall into a @#$% comma most times cause its better then going through this abuse my husband is so @#$% up in the head its so sad and exhausting . the only thing or reason I’m still fighting each day to exist is due to my three kids ages 6 yrs 4yrs and 1yrs old Hallie mia and jasmine. How I adore my kids, love them with all my heart so I couldn’t dare leave them alone in this world with just chaos for a father figure or parent. That would be incredibility @#$% up. For everyone. My husband won’t stop playing role reversal with me trying to say I’m doing all the messed up @#$% he is actually doing even at the very moment in playing the role switch. I just can’t keep it up. I don’t want to either. He has pissed in a bag he packed with some clothes that were too small to fit that someone gave me and I had tossed in the hallway cabinet until I got around to throw them out. He denies he pissed in the bag he packed for me. My own daughter told he did but still he denies and abuses. He has raped me anal while I was passed out sleeping cause I told him he couldn’t have any. Then boasted about it in front of his nephew right after doing it which I was then just realizing this was not a @#$% up joke mad me sad pissed and discussed with him and what has become of him. Tried to make me loose my kids and my housing systematically terrorizing me emotionally which I am a very sensitive person. I’m a pieces in zodiac signs. too the point where I feared my own safety and called cps for temporary removal of my kids so that @#$% didn’t get to the point authority’s had to remove them. I called on my own b-day explained to my kids it was just temporary so that mommy could make and straighten things out at home so when they CE home it was much better for everyone was one of the hardest things I’ve done. But I love my kids too much too give up. I’m going to DV against family violence classes but I think I need one-on-one Counseling. But more than that, I just need him to stop @#$% with my life and be a decent man. I’ve done nothing to deserve this abuse. But to him, everything is my fault and his actions are really my actions, at least this is how he role plays in everything.
Corey, assuming everything you wrote is accurate, you are married to a man who should not be a husband or a father to anyone. You need to fully accept that a man who would rape you while passed out, then brag about it in front of his nephew is not a man, should have been prosecuted, is dangerous and a bad person.
To pee in a bag he packed for you means he does not respect you, your children (that your daughter even knows about it is disturbing), or basic human decency.
I have no idea what kind of dynamic exists between you and your husband. I have no idea whether you are provoking him, or, in one way or another, adding fuel to the fire that is your destructive relationship. But this much I do know: There is absolutely NOTHING you could do that would justify rape. There is nothing that would justify pissing in the bag he packed for you.
You married someone unfit for normal human relationships and certainly should not be a father. To the degree that all you wrote is, in fact, accurate, you MUST get your kids away from him. It doesn’t matter if you feel that you love him or not (and the thought that you could possibly love a man who would rape you and brag about it is itself a whole book of a reply unto itself), your first obligation as a mother is to protect your children. They will grow up twisted and messed up if you stay in that home with him. Yes, you do need one-on-one counseling. But you also need to leave and take your kids with you. It also sounds like you may need police protection as well. If you have family who can help, give them a call. Talk to the authorities. Your needs are far beyond the resources a happiness blogger has at his command. You need to seek professional advice to get and keep custody of your children while you leave that poor excuse for a man and start working through whatever issues exist in your life that has even allowed you to marry, have three kids with and remain with this guy.
I’m so sorry your life has taken this route. I’m proud of you for staying with your kids. They need you right now more than ever. They need their mommy to step up to do what may be the most difficult thing she may ever do. They need you to protect them, to do whatever is legal and moral to get them away from the corruption that their father is to them. I don’t know how he treats them specifically, but I do know they see how he treats his wife. That is the example for how they will think marriages are like, what’s acceptable and what is not within their own marriages. You are teaching them what is tolerable and what isn’t, what they should accept and what they shouldn’t.
So document the craziness. Build a case against him. Seek legal counsel. Find out what your options are. Talk to family about what they are able to do to help. But whatever you do, start doing it. Don’t wait.
If what you say is true, you need to be the mommy your children deserve and get them to an environment that is safe, where their mommy is not abused. This is only my opinion, so seek the professional help I’ve suggested. But act. Don’t simply put up with more of the same for some indefinite amount of time. I wish you the best, Corey. And I wish your beautiful kids the best as well.
It hurts too much too bear cause I love him but its this that is caused my suffering to be so greatly prolonged . we are 26 and 38 been together for 13 years now married 6 years
Don’t let it fade into 7, then 8, then 9 years of further abuse. Your children are watching. And learning.
Another warning sign: you’ve been together since you were 13 and he was 25? Then he should also be a convicted sex offender. Take your kids and go NOW.
Moses makes a great point, Corey. I didn’t do the math earlier, but yes, if a 25 year old was dating a 13 year old, there are more problems than even you’ve mentioned. Not even sure what to say about parents who never stepped up to do something about a 25 year old pursuing their little junior high school girl!
Hi Ken!
Wow! You article is so thoughtful and really helped me sort out some things. I even took advice from some of your answers in the comment section like Andrew’s response. My husband is emotionally abusive and has used stonewalling for the most part of our relationship and we have been together over 20 years with three beautiful children. I am not sure how I ended up with someone so cold–I actually get so depressed when I see a husband do nice things for his wife or seems to care about her. I feel like a heavy weight on my chest that is hard to take. I am actualyl a very cheerful person and the glass half full kind of person so I guess I was a perfect target for him. Maybe he loved my kindness and thoughtfulness at first but now he can’t find a thing I do right. I think when the kids were younger, I could hide his moods and deal with the kids on my own when he was in a funk. I was always laughing with them and bringing them to fun places when he was down or angry. Probably made the behavior worse because I did not want to have “that” sort of family who fights so I tried to hide the moods and not start fights. Once my beautiful daughter became a teen, the problems came out more. I found out later that he while spending time with her hanging out etc. and say she was airing her woes about me, instead of standing by me he would agree (although he is really strict so not sure why he would do this…) and then complain about something or other about me to her. I guess is got progressively worse and I was oblivious but could not understand the animosity my daughter was showing towards me.. We went to counseling and not always great for someone who displays narcissistic traits since they twist things to their favor. Then the parental alienation came out and as time went on I realized how bad it got. I think he did not plan for it to be that way and I think he honestly thought I was doing that to him but I kept telling him that no matter how strict or unreasonable he was with our daughter, I would always tell her he did it out of love. Never would I campaign her against him.
He had an bad car accident 6 months ago, was diagnosed with PTSD, depression and anxiety and he is now so over the top that nothing he does is wrong and we are all the enemies. I can’t even talk to him without a sarcastic comment on how horrible I am or a bad parent etc. Over his unreasonableness, he is now not talking to my daughter and it is 4 months now and she is mad but devastated also. He blames her and thinks she needs to come to him but it is all him. She apologized but nothing good enough. I know he is in a lot of pain and has the PTSD but I think he had some form of it before the accident because it was always there bit just not as bad. I want to leave so bad but I honestly feel that he is so emotionally out of control that he could do something serious so I am giving it a last try to wait and see if the counseling works this time. He now goes to weekly counseling for insurance purposes so this is the first time he has to stick it out. Since the accident he actually lies to people about me but I think he believes it—almost made me look inappropriate by saying I sleep with my 4 year old even though for one thing he kicked me out the bedroom months ago which I was fine with but also I have no where else to sleep. I also don’t believe cosleeping is bad. But I can’t trust he will go to court if I do leave a make up some ridiculous story. So I want to help him get to a better emotional place before that —if that makes sense. Plus as callous as this sounds, he may receive a lot of money from the accident and he has financially abused me all our marriage—and the stress this has caused is huge. Never following budget, hiding money, keeping more of his pay than he needs, spending thousands on his sport at one go but questioning $20 expenditure for the kids. I call all bills to ensure nothing gets turned off etc and I am sick of it. If I leave, I will not get a penny for my kids and he will live a fantastic life while I struggle paying off half our debt and saving for education. So I sound callous but for my children, I feel it worth it to get him at a good emotional place hopefully and who knows—maybe this is what may change him. But right now—I actually feel so depressed about my life that I seem to carry a heavy weight around and it is affecting my health. I look tired and drained and although I work, I goes days without showering. Sounds worse than it is since I don’t smell 🙂 bit not like me at all. It is a huge effort to go on. I hide it from my kids and cry in the bathroom, but he sucks the life right out of me. How can people be like this and does cognitive therapy actually work? Hard to imagine someone changing so drastically. I am embarrassed I have allowed this for 20 years and I sometimes (although I know better…) wonder why I don’t get treated special and maybe that means I am not that great of a mom or wife. How can he not find one nice thing to say about me and I do everything around the house and for our kids but I see wives who do way less than me and their husbands say wonderful things about them. Boy that can mess you up no matter how intelligent you are.
LB, again, sorry I took so long to get back to you. Life gets complicated for sure. The first thing I want to say to you is that your husband’s response to you is a reflection of his character and his soul, not your value or worth. When children are raised in a household where criticism and anger and name-calling, and his negative campaign against you goes on, they learn that being nice and grateful and kind and thoughtful are not the valued traits that help them get by at home. So no wonder you don’t get the positive reinforcement you deserve. Given the way you’ve described your husband, he does not seem qualified to pass judgment on your parenting, or anything else. Now, of course, he will still pass judgment and call you names based on his perception, I suppose. But you can mentally discredit him as a valid source of criticism and learn to smile inside as he meaninglessly attacks you. An attack hurts only if the sword hits flesh. So don’t allow him access to the flesh of your heart. Again, all I’m saying here is to mentally write him off as a credible or meaningful critic. Then it won’t matter so much what he says, at least not for your sense of self-esteem and happiness. Marriage should never be a prison sentence. Yours shouldn’t be either. I think it is noble of you to give counseling another shot, but you also need to talk to legal counsel to figure out what your rights and responsibilities are. Initial consultations are usually free, but check first. You can also find some solid free legal advice online. But search it out. Know where you stand, what the facts are, what your rights are, how to protect yourself against his possible accusations and the like. Then, at least, you will have answers and your fear of the possible future can be seriously reduced. It’s always better to make decisions based on knowledge than one fear.
And remember, his pain does not make you an appropriate victim to his meanness. How he feels is not a valid excuse to treat others poorly. You need accept that before you make any big decisions. What he does or does not do is his responsibility, not yours. So many people have sacrificed their lives at the altar of others’ threats of suicide. If he begins to talk of suicide, get in touch with a local suicide prevention organization. But don’t be manipulated into enduring your own hell to prevent him from acting on his threats or your fears.
I suppose I’m all over the place in my reply to you, LB. To sum up, here’s what I would do (you have to use your own judgment here to determine whether my inclination would work in your situation though):
I would sit my husband down and tell him something like this:
“Here’s the deal: We have a 4-year old daughter that is learning from us what love means, what is tolerable in a relationship with a man, how men should treat and talk to their wives and what to expect out of her future love-relationships. We are setting the pattern she will likely repeat in her own life. I can’t let her learn the lessons we are teaching. If therapy doesn’t work to heal us, to change us, to change how you talk to me, then I MUST leave. I am morally obligated to stop teaching her that what you say to me is acceptable. I’m sorry you are in pain, but your harshness and coldness preceded your accident. Your accident only intensified what was already intolerable. I am no longer going to tolerate it. I understand change is difficult. But if you don’t make this your number one priority, I will be gone in a month (or however long you decide is right, LB). I have talked to legal counsel and know my rights and what to expect in case of a divorce and in case you make unsubstantiated claims against me. I have been documenting everything for the last (x amount of time). So here we are. I’ll accept your anger because I’ve given you no reason to change over the last 20 years. Now I am. I’ll give you three days to process what I’m telling you now, then my tolerance of your unreasonable anger is over. I am through accepting your indecency. Your excuses or reasons for your behavior do not matter to me in the slightest. They are meaningless. Only your behavior matters to me now. You have to win me back or I will not be back. You will be left alone. It does not matter if you think I cannot afford to live on my own, I will figure it out. There are charitable resources available. I’ll find what I need to do to free myself of living under your tyranny. So decide what you want to do, how hard you want to make therapy work for us, whether you want a family at all. Then let me know. But I will accept no accusations. I simply want you to tell me if we are going to truly change things. If not, in three days tell me and I’ll start making arrangements to leave. If you decide you want us to work, you want our children’s respect, you want a family and love in your life, then all I want to hear is that you want to make therapy work. That means that you are committed to changing–not committed to changing me. As we go through therapy, honesty will be required. No manipulating the therapist into thinking I’m one way when you know I’m not. As soon as lies and manipulation arise, I’ll call you on it and if you don’t return to the truth, I’ll walk out of the session and out of your life. If during the therapy the therapist sees something in me that needs addressing, so be it. I want to change whatever I need to change. But make no mistake, this is about YOU doing what YOU need to do to win my heart back because right now it is a million miles away and I’m a step and a half out the door. This is not an argument so I won’t stay to listen to your response. I want you to truly think it through and decide what you want. If your picture of your future does not include me and the kids, so be it. If it does, let me know. I’ll ask in three days. Figure it out. I’ll talk to you then. Good night.”
Again, LB, I obviously don’t know your husband,so don’t know if he is likely to strike out violently or not. If so, you might want to have this conversation in a public place, like a restaurant or with family or friends in there or in the next room.
And don’t way anything you are not 100% ready to follow through with.
I truly hope things work out for you. My heart and prayer go out to your family. Let us know what happens, ok? God bless!
Thank you so much for this. I am walking through a really confusing and hurtful situation and this explains a lot of whats happening inside the other person who has bullied veebally and emotionally abused and ostracized me during what was already a very lonely and vulnerable time in my life. He has apparently moved on never looking back at what has gone on while I am left w the conflicting emotions of “love” for him and hurt and pain and rejection and I didnt have a clue why he would do these things. Your article is helping me understand and heal thank you so much.
I’m thrilled you found some degree of understanding here, Betsy. Thank you for sharing that with us. We all wish you the best as you process the end of that relationship. Learn from it and look for clues as to why you ended up with someone with his challenges. Then apply those lessons to your next relationship, keeping an eye out for the clues to avoid. That way, you can avoid having to deal with conflicting feelings the next time. And be sure to look hard on the inside. Ask yourself what about you made his behavior tolerable? Why did you wait for him to leave? Why didn’t you leave him long ago? How was it that you fell in love with someone who treated you disrespectfully? These are important questions for you to answer so you can choose better next time. Blessings, Betsy.
Thank you Ken.
Your article is one of the very few I have found that tries to solve and help the issue rather than just explain the problem or spruik a pay for help site/advertisement. I have been a ‘victim’ as well as ‘bully’ for over twenty years and so have both suffered and caused pain to my loved ones. At the moment I am trying to get my partner to become more self aware and honest with her own feelings and actions, It’s very hard when she just closes down and then tries to behave normally without anything being done to address the issues.
I am feeling like a broken object that was smashed in a rage and then discarded because I’m now broken instead of trying to be repaired/fixed.
Has society embraced throw away consumerism to the extent that it includes people! Anyway I like your idea that there is HOPE.
Thanks from Jonno in Canberra
Thank you, Jonno. I’m glad you found value in what I wrote. You may be up against a very difficult challenge. Those who tend not to be very self aware are also those who tend to have extremely high walls of self-protection in place, which makes self awareness that much more difficult. And self awareness, of course, is the first step to improvement. So go slow, be patient, and let love guide your efforts.
Jonno, I understand how you feel. When we feel broken, especially if we feel someone else broke us, it’s easy to fall into the trap of waiting for others to come fix us. Be careful of that. Never suspend your own personal development waiting for others to change, fix things, or make amends for past wrongs. No, people are not throw-away products. But people have to initiate their own progress. I wish you love and success on your personal journey, Jonno. And yes, there is most definitely hope.
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Hi Ken… I can only say thank you… So many things you said in this article is me… And for 43 years of my life i believed it to be a strong personality… I am ashamed as i type this message but have a feeling of exitement because now i know what to look out for… (How must one know if no one tells you whats right or wrong)… You are so right… It started with a bad childhood… Foster care… And rejection… And and and… You understand…. So i grew up having to fight for every little thing i needed or wanted in my life… My foster parent made it very clear that not even my own family wanted me because i was not worth it… Changed me into a “i will show you” type of person… And even ended up in prison for bar fighting and assault at the age of 16… Making most of my friends fear me…. Which in turn helped because i didnt need to argue… Everyone just always agreed…. This in turn made me believe to have a strong personality…. Well Ken… With a bowed down head of shame i thank you for opening my eyes…. My wife has left me 10 times in over 15 years and we heading for number 11… Not that its all my fault but none of that tonight… And just for the record no i have never gotten physical… I see how i could of changed alot of the outcomes in my life… I would really appreciate it if you have more material you can send me to help… I need to be better then this i need to stand up from all this… Once again thank you so much and may you be blessed for all the lives you touched with this article…
Martin, you have touched me, my friend. To have the courage, integrity and honesty to admit the need for change when your whole world evolved around a life-long perspective, is truly impressive. I respect you so much for this. What a huge wake-up call!
I think the first step might be to sit down with your wife and be as open with her as you were with us here. Let her know that while it is going to be an uphill climb to change, that you are going to make every effort to do so. Ask her to try to be patient with the process. But then be sure to make that process as important as anything you’ve ever wanted to accomplish. This is the most important goal you have ever set. Give it everything you have.
Here’s a great piece of simple (but not simplistic) steps or ideas you can use as inspiration to begin making the changes you need to make. (here’s the link: http://zenhabits.net/change/ ). It was written by someone else and with a focus on other things, but very much applicable to your circumstances. If you still need something more, let me know and I’ll dig deeper for you. Keep us posted as you travel this new road, ok?
Generations to come will thank you for this step you are taking.
Hey Ken. Thank you for the article. I have often wanted to know if my partners behavior was acceptable and now I know it isn’t. He blames low self esteem and depression for his actions which I always thought was a good enough reason for him to behave in a way I find difficult to tolerate.
He shouts and screams all the time. Nothing I say ever makes it better. He finds fault in my behavior but seems incapable of showing any empathy towards me. I can’t reason with him.
But I will try. It’s been 11 years. We have 2 children I do my best to protect. I don’t think it will make any difference tho standing up to him. Like I said he doesn’t listen and I don’t think he will ever think his behavior is unacceptable
Perhaps he would be open to therapy as a way of “fixing” you. What I mean is that if you approach the topic of therapy not as a way to get him to see what he’s doing, but as a way to improve who you are, to improve the relationship, maybe getting him in the door that way can lead him to begin seeing himself in new ways.
And remember, low self-esteem and depression may be reasons for the impulse to behave a certain way but is no excuse for it–and certainly does not justify doing little-to-nothing about it for years. Reasons explain causes. Excuses justify bad behavior.
If that ploy doesn’t work, you have to decide if you’re willing to tolerate his behavior and the effect it will likely have on your children. If you decide you cannot go on accepting that kind of behavior, sometimes an ultimatum can work. IE: If he wants to keep you, he has to go to therapy with you to salvage the relationship. But you have to make the decision first. If he senses you’re just trying to manipulate him, he may call your bluff. Then when you really are fed up, you may find it even more difficult to add leverage to get him into therapy.
Hope this helps, Red. Bottom line, you have to do something for your kids, so they know what is acceptable behavior in a relationship and what is not. Their future relationships will likely depend on it.
I’ve been married to a bully for 38 years. I’m just now finding out what is wrong with him. His father was a horrible, mean, and very abusive father and husband. I actually witnessed his father beating his mom. I should have ran then. My husband’s bullying came in the form of practical jokes. He would put a pillow over my face and hold me down until I became hysterical. He would put his foot out to trip me, and laughed if I fell, even when I was 9 months pregnant. He would hold me down with his whole body on top of me to use his stiff fingers to jab me until I cried. When I would get upset, he would get mad at me and say things like,”fine..then big baby, I’ll just never touch you again.” Then give me the silent treatment. This went on until the kids were old enough for him to do it to them, which made me fight to protect them from him, which would blow up into a huge battle. He would terrorize our family so much that it was a joy when he was gone on trips…. The hardest thing for me to endear is his extreme lack of empathy for me. If I would trip and fall he would laugh…if I’m sick he gets mad. If I cry, he doesn’t want to hear it and walks away. If I’m mad I will get the silent treatment with doors slammed in my face, and phone calls hung up. He is not affectionate, if I sit close to him he will do some irritating thing to me so I will move away. Our fights are turning into him slamming my head down on a car by holding my hair, or grabbing my hair and turning the shower on me fully dressed. He is starting to really scare me now. I don’t love him at all anymore, but because of all the put downs, I am not brave enough to leave. As long as I don’t get upset or put him in a corner on a disagreement we don’t fight. But I still have to endure his mean practical jokes daily. I guess it’s pretty much up to me how long I can do this. I have the right to be happy. I just need to get brave
Vicky, it sounds to me like your husband is sadistic. Sadists take pleasure in other people’s pain. They are not fit to be in a relationship. I recognize that you already know this, but you must start making plans to get out. Take that first step. I know you struggle with the courage to go. But you don’t have to go … yet. Start planning HOW you will go. Planning is not leaving. So if leaving feels too scary for now, start by merely thinking about the process. Where will you go? How will you pay for it? What job can you get (if you’re not already employed)? I don’t know how old your kids are, but they need you to be strong, to decide to begin the process of leaving. They need you to protect them from him. They need you to teach them what is allowable in a relationship. Remember, he learned his behavior from his dad. Don’t let your kids learn the same thing from theirs. What you allow is what they will learn is acceptable behavior to either tolerate from others or to inflict on others. Neither should be acceptable and you need to teach them that in more than mere words. The impact of your example will always speak louder than anything you say to them. Be strong, Vicky. You deserve to be treated respectfully. And your kids deserve a mom who respects them more then her own fears about leaving. I don’t mean to lay a guilt trip on you. I’m sorry it feels that way. But this is so critical to generations to come as kids learn from parents who learn from their parents who learn from theirs that I feel the need to paint the picture as I see it very starkly. So end the cycle of abuse. Put a stop to it here and now, even if only in the planning of it for now. That can build the momentum to actually walk out the door later (hopefully sooner than later, though). My heart and prayer go out to you, Vicky. If you simply can’t emotionally get yourself to take appropriate, moral and legal action yet, start planning. Start fantasizing about the joy of no longer being with him. Think about the freedom to be. Think about the influence you are removing from your kids. Let that excite you tot he point that there is no other alternative but to leave. But begin now. Please. You can do this. You need to do this. So simply start doing it.
I posted a few people up but you answered everyone after me but my post so I hope I did not offend with the length of it. Sorry if that was the case.
Not at all, LB. So sorry if it appeared to be a snub. I’ve actually neglected my blog for the last handful of months, hardly updating it at all, so I’ve missed many of the comments. But then I visited my neglected site just the other day and found a comment (the latest is the first to appear in the dashboard) that was from a woman living with a man I believe to be a sadist. I had to reply as immediately as I noticed her comment. Then I started working backwards toward the older comments I hadn’t yet replied to. Yours was simply the comments under which I ran out of time the other day. But I will definitely reply. So sorry for the delay. Your comment actually deserved a more timely response. Having just now read it, I now regret very deeply having waited this long. Still, given the hour, I wouldn’t do it justice until tomorrow when I’m more fully awake. My heart goes out to you, LB. Talk to you soon.
Thanks ….I appreciate any advice! I certainly need it!
The two to tango complexity of this dynamic is difficult to tease apart. I write my relationship dynamic to remind myself of the need to break the chain and also that it may help someone else.
My own story is that I was verbally and emotionally abused as a child and adolescent by a mother. A mother who I presume had some form of narcissistic personality disorder, which compounded by social isolation and economic pressure would exhaust itself into emotional collapse, which to gain approval. I would try to support back to the functional dysfunction of narcissistic bullying of yes you guessed it me.
My father had long since withdrawn from the relationship and was having an affair, I guess for emotional succour and stability, my older siblings left when they could, though not before one repeatedly attempted to commit suicide; which I never attempted, though have been left with life long suicidal ideation when dealing with emotional conflict and existential crisis, particularly economic.
My strategy has been to practice as much as I can Buddhist meditation, and self-kindness strategies. However, this has been punctuated with bouts of depression and low self-esteem especially as now under long-term economic pressure of unemployment and finding a new way to earn a living that does not put me under inordinate stress.
This leads to emotional conflict with my long term partner. However, I am rarely the initiator of this conflict, though once triggered I perpetuate the cycle.
You see my partner coming from a large chaotic Asian family had after her father’s death, at a young age, with a mother unwilling to play the role, adopted the maternal role to hold the household together.
This has meant that her identity is wrapped up in tightly controlling the household, the children and to a degree me. This is a strange remote type of bullying where someone has always done something wrong.Leading to a low grade but almost continual demand for domestic order in a passive aggressive type way. If we do not keep the household and our behaviours as she wishes it is as if we have broken some unspoken covenant.
There is no emotional, physical connection other than around these household tasks, paying bills and the forever discussions of her conflict with her work colleagues and her siblings around the care of her mentally and physically disabled brother whom she has become the mother too with who she invest much of her emotional capital and several late night evenings. She usually goes to bed in the wee hours after staying out, or up late, self-medicating with cannabis, now due to physical decline medically justified.
In the mornings if we don’t get out of her way she wakes up with a hang-over an proceeds to bully the household into her order, the dishes must be done, get out of my way, etc. Then, running late for work the final piece of stress spills over onto anyone within ear shot, though she may just to add to the tension phone up a utility company to give them a hard time just as an icing on the cake.
Well come the moment cometh the man and I explode usually around the kids being bullied with the load in your face shoulds, oh those so many should haves.
The remaining son kids get anxious worried that if I intervene on their behalf this will simply lead to an argument and so they try to stop me from intervening. If unsuccessful then the battle begins, where I try to make my point and am ignored or cut off in mid rant (yes it is a rant, and I am often by this point using the tools I picked up from my mother) the best outcome is she has not got time for this and walks away shouting last words or it can be slamming door and aggressive threatening tones kicks.
This leads me to feel abandoned in the relationship (hello mother) as I know she will not talk to me for a day or so, or if she does there is no reconciliation its just that we have to ignore what happened and this simply stocks up the tension for the next argument.
What was an already emotionally, physically distant and strained relationship leads to isolation with everyone inhabiting their own space, accept when their is joint involvement our sons with mild Asperger’s (me too probably).
The only way back is for me to apologise (in our long twenty years living together she has apologised once and that was to convince me to come back to live in the family home). To then cement the relationship I can connive in some form of conflict she is having with an external other, her work colleagues, siblings, some authority figure, the school, utility company, then we can get back on track as I become a soldier in her war against the other and I may be reward with some degree of intimacy, that last for a day or so.
I have left, and then been cried over three time to come back, just to go through the same process all over again and again.
Now financially I am trapped, and I want to see my last son grown up and away, but I can see the strain on him and I am afraid that I will be seen as the mad Dad; which my oldest, who has left home, has I know has seen me as and I have tried hard to explain, especially after he has been on the receiving end of her ordering around, he tries to take it lightly, and sometimes succeeds; though I imagine he things well I am not going to be here for the rest of my life.
Now yes I am in the middle of this with my own issues of childhood bullying and abandonment, however you article has made me realise as I write this response that living under this regime (and the stressful jobs I have to take to support it) simply triggers my own unskilful behaviour
I find that only meditation, and retreats give me any resource to cope and now I am treading water until I can leave again which makes me feel depressed isolated.
I have live with other before and I am fine, even when living with others there is never a problem, in fact I cant remember having an argument with anyone I lived with except my partner and only recently with my older son when I felt he was not pulling his weight and adding to our financial stress.
So thanks for the article it makes me face the reality rather than the fantasy of this relationships dynamics.
P.S I have left, went on couple counselling on my own, went to therapist to work out my abandonment issues, I have written to her only to find the letter ripped up left at the top of the bin so I see it. Finally, there is no blame here only deep deep pain, vast as a forgotten ocean of love.
The Stabbing
He tried,
not to cry
As she spat
out the lie,
she wished
that he’d die
He turned
away the attack,
she stabbed a
curse, in his back
She shouted
after him,
fat man
be thin
He walked
out the door,
mumbling this
love no more
while this is a very well start and list, it should not be looked upon as an absolute list… my personal situation is that i have been emotionally bullied all my life by my parents, mostly my mother… i am older and have spent most of my life “no contact” because of the severity of her bullying and other abuses… the past year i have had to rely on her because of recovering from major medical issues, and the bullying is still there, even stronger because of my vulnerabilities with recovery… i find myself yelling on top of her because of her interruptions and constant following and complaining and nagging… and i do cuss back at her… to my memory, i am only this reactive with her and on occassion with my enabling father… the tendency to act in the same manner does rear its ugly head sometimes, but i am able to step back, breathe and temper it… not with her… i did read it thoroughly, but maybe i missed it if it’s there, but i would suggest putting in an afterthought about how sometimes in dealing with a true emotional bully, the response or reaction to the severity may seem like a mirroring, but is actually a self-protective push back if it is only done in specific situations… but yes, if it is a character that is done with anyone, then yes, one needs to self-evaluate… it can only bring growth and a more peaceful, gracious and joyful future for anyone who is willing to sit down and take a bit of the humble pie… i know i have to for other things… it tastes bitter, goes down okay, but settles in the belly like sweet and nourishing honey… 😉
Well said. I agree that for those who have been abused and bullied, it may feel like the only way to be heard is to do what they do in a “conversation.” This does not necessarily mean you are bullying back, but are simply trying to stay afloat in a raging sea of unreasonableness. Still, there are likely better (meaning more productive) ways of replying without falling into the trap they set–at least in many cases, I suspect. The problem with doing as they do to survive is that you effectively adopt their example. You reinforce their effect on you. Hopefully you don’t have to be there much longer as your medical issues are being treated.
Parent relationships are a particularly sore spot. When a parent falls short of their responsibilities to love their children, life-long wounds can fester in ugly ways. So glad to see that you at least recognize the tendency to repeat what was done to you and to course-correct on your own. That says a lot about your character.
There is an article I wrote some time ago for another blog that may help you deal with your anger and resentment for your mother after you are able to leave. Here’s the link: 12 Ways to Forgive Your Parents for Doing Such a Crummy Job of Raising You. Well, for some reason, I’m not able to complete the link here. I do have it linked in my first reply to “Sam” though, so you can scroll up and click on that link to head over to the article, if you’d like.
Wish you the best, creativebebe.
Like my friend says a hard hit makes a soft a** aka butt. I’m going threw emotional bulling by my kids dad and in some ways this post offended me because when my kids dad calls me a f**king a** b***h and other bad names i do cry because the words do hurt who ever made up the saying sticks and stones may brake my bones but words well never hurt me needs to go threw this because that’s a big lie i been beaten up by a man and to tell you the truth i’d rather be beaten up by a man because those wounds heal verbal abuse never heals and if it does it takes along time and yes I’ve tried to leave him but when you have no money and no help and nowhere to go then what? Your stuck and women shelters only keep you a month two months tops so where do you go.
You are in a tough spot, for sure, Jessica. My heart aches for you. Remember, though, I suggested emotional bullies use their crying to manipulate arguments. I’m in no way suggesting all who cry are therefore emotional manipulators. Hope that clarification removes the offense from my post. In any event, you are certainly in a seriously challenging place right now. Have you talked to anyone about it? Do you have family around who are in a position to let you stay with them? How old are your kids? You need to start documenting his verbal abuse. Whenever it happens, write it down. This matters legally. Keep a journal or diary of it. But keep it secret too. This should be something you document only when he is away from the house. But go talk to an attorney. Initial consultations are usually free–so be sure yours is free before sitting down to talk. But find out what your options are. Talk to someone in child custody law as well. Make some phone calls. Search online–then delete your search history. Do the homework necessary to at least know your options. In the meantime, think about counseling. Would your husband let you go? I hate the idea of him having to “let” you go, but he sounds like the type who would feel it’s up to him whether you get that kind of help or not. Sometimes when a spouse starts going, the other ends up in the office with them. You might also think about doing something online or at home or while the kids are in school for some income. You need job experience and something you can put on a resume to move into higher income brackets. If your kids’ dad objects to your working, suggest it in terms of the family’s finances or in preparation for a family vacation in the future. The bottom line is that you need some financial independence. This can scare a bully though, so be sure not to flaunt your new-found independence once you land a job and start making some money. Remember, your goal is longer-termed than financial independence. You want the ability to take care of yourself and your kids without having to rely on your kids’ dad’s income.
As for the verbal abuse and name-calling. Try this. When he calls you names, picture him in your mind’s eye as a little bratty boy who has been treated badly by his parents and is now throwing a tantrum. Actually picture him small, young, awkward. You can go one of two ways on this one: Be compassionate and see him as an abused broken kid who is lashing out because of his own pain (but don;t picture him as an adult who has been hurt. You have to picture him as an 8 or 12 year old. Or you can go comical instead and picture him in a clown outfit, a big giant nose and makeup. If your kid’s dad may turn violent, be sure to be careful with this one. You don;t want to appear to be mocking him as you try to force back a smile as you picture him as a clown. The point of all this, of course, is to defang the bite, to reduce the hurt his words cause. Remember, what he says to you matters only if what he says matters to you. There are ways to change the impact of his verbal assaults on you. There are more online, so look for them. I presume you found this article because you are already searching. Continue. There are answers to your particular set of circumstances. You just have to find them, then act on them. Good luck with this, Jessica. My prayers go out to you.
And my kids dad made it harder for me to leave because he made it to where if i leave i can’t take my kids he told child protective services lies about me he even signed and paper at my kids school that i cant take my kids out of school without his permission.
It’s gotten to the point that i no longer feel love for him i just stay for the sake of my kids i guess my life well never know happiness again and i well never know true love
And I’m only 32years old.
And he’s 64 years old
He has ruined my life to no return.
Jessica, how did you end up with a man twice your age? How old were you when you married him? Let me know how things work out. You’re too young to have a ruined life. Don’t allow it. If you leave him, will he be able to care for the children? Are circumstances such that he can retire early, or soon? If not, you might have some leverage. But again, you have to know the likelihood of him turning violent. So go carefully, but strongly. Don;t allow him to call you names or treat you disrespectfully. Be strong–not violent or explosive. Refuse to steep to his level. But if he calls you names, leave. Let him know you will be back when, and only if, he can treat you respectfully. If he launches into his next verbal assault, just walk out. Go visit a friend. Spend the night, if needed. Let him know that life is changing if he doesn’t change the way he speaks to you and the way he treats you. And if he EVER gets violent, press charges. If he gets violent again, press charges again and leave him. You should have done the legal inquiry by then, so you know your legal options here. Remember that you are not only sticking up for yourself, you are teaching your children what kind of behavior is acceptable. So don’t accept it. Ever. Again, good luck Jessica. Let us know how things develop. And remember to seek the professional counsel you are in dire need of. What I share is my opinion without knowing nearly enough of the specific details about your circumstances. So once more, seek the advice of professionals in the areas of concern (legal, psychological, etc) before trying what I’ve shared with you.
Jessica, you married a man twice your age? What you need to do is start documenting the abusive behavior. Keep a secret journal where you record every act of abuse (verbal or any other kind of abuse) with time and date it happens. You need to build up a record or catalog of abuse that can then be used to fight for custody. Talk to a lawyer to find out what your rights are and how you can maneuver yourself into a legal position of advantage. Good luck, Jessica. Happiness is available to you. Don’t give up on that idea. Let it motivate you to action. Many lawyers will give a first consultation for free. Check in to see if you have a case. You can also search online for legal advice. In the meantime, God bless you as you work toward your own and your children’s peace and joy.
oh my god – this article has just been a total awakening to why I lost my boyfriend. If only I’d read it before I killed our relationship. I would do anything to get him back and work on it together but I know I’m probably too late….. I feel ashamed that even though there are reasons for my own trauma I spread my inner turmoil on to my loved ones.
Thank you so much for sharing your insight and part of your story with us, Emma. There are so many people who are in a similar situation. While I’m sorry for the pain you must feel at having possibly lost your boyfriend, I’m excited you discovered the reason. As time passes and new people are met and new love interests develop, you will have a new-found dedication to loving and discovering and honoring different points of view rather than manipulating and controlling conversations. I respect so much the fact that you recognize that your past has created your responses, while owning them as your own and recognizing the need to change their affect on your life and relationships. Change can sometimes feel frustrating when it doesn’t seem like we’re making progress. But be patient with yourself on this journey. At the end, you will look back and see a greater distance covered than you thought you traveled.
I think I am an emotional bully, BUT my husband physically abuses me. I am not sure how to reconcile this. I don’t want to emotionally abuse anyone but I do because I feel it is my only power in my relationship. Advice please.
If your husband physically abuses you, leave. If you have kids, take them with you. Let him know you will be back only if and when he gets professional or religious counseling and the counselor advises you that your husband is no longer violent. Your emotional abuse of your husband for physically abusing you is a destructive cycle that needs to stop. If you have children, they are learning from the two of you how significant others should be treated. Your words will matter much less than the example you two set. So set an example that does not tolerate abuse.
Having taught middle school aged children for many years I feel like something important has been left out of this article, victims who feel powerless often yell because that is what all children are taught to do when they feel unsafe- yell for help, yell danger, yell stop- don’t touch me/don’t do that/this is not okay. On the actual playground that is so often used as a metaphor when discussing bullying, the bullies rarely yell because that is how they get caught and most schools have had low or no tolerance for bullying since the 1950s when bullying was widely recognized as a sign of future criminal behavior. Researchers have known for many years that bullies learn how to goad and torment their victims into yelling and losing their tempers while they themselves maintain complete control of the situation (and many use this dynamic to control their entire peer group)- this behavior has been documented in numerous peer reviewed studies. This is the environment where all bullies hone their craft even if they learned it elsewhere. People do not outgrow their school age dynamics anymore and this dynamic has been carried into millions of adult relationships.
Thank you for adding that part of the dynamic, Mickey. My article was less about the historical development or even the psychological development and more a wake-up call to bullies who are willing to admit they have a problem and commit to change. But your insight is appreciated, so thanks again for sharing it here, Mickey.
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I feel like I’m at the end of my rope. In the beginning of our 29-years-long marriage, my wife would frequently explode at any issue that upset her…which was seemingly most of what I did. At first, I found it numbing, and would argue back, and then later try to write a letter or note hoping to have things smoothed over with words that weren’t so explosive. Making up was more like pretending the nuclear explosion never happened.
Now, I confess that I’ve gotten to the point where I obsess about suicide…as a way of ultimately getting her attention. I know…pretty stupid. After all, what difference will it make at that point.
More research needs to be done on the long-term damage of a man living with a control freak. I’ve no doubt been somewhat of an enabler because of our kids (one an interior designer, and the other a successful attorney)…and they both see it. Now that they’re out of the house, Mom’s wrath has subsided. Unfortunately, I’m still a target.
Tonight I will spend most of my time fighting off urges to hurt myself. She laughed at me, and said maybe she should have the police come and take me off to the asylum. So, the little lady that everyone loves, is not always so nice when no one is around to see what she is really like.
Your article is such an eye-opener, it just changed the way I see myself and my relationship with my wonderful husband. I don’t know what coincidence made me stumble upon this article just at the moment I needed it. I know, my comment is going to be very long, but please bear with me because I want to give some context to the story. I generally had a rather ‘okay’ childhood and grew into a relatively well-adjusted adult although I think my mom had a narcissistic personality disorder while my dad was an extremely impatient, short-tempered man. My mom was very controlling, manipulative, loved to goad and torment me into arguments, victimize herself and always wants to be the centre of attention. I am sort of a family clown and oddball and can easily make people laugh. She assumed I was stealing her attention and anytime I tried to talk she’d interrupt conversations, shout and cackle to get attention.
While my dad grew mellower over the years, she developed such bitterness within her that even talking to her for an hour left me depressed for days. She even used to try and turn me against my father. I know they didn’t have a great marriage and I grew up watching them argue and bicker over the tiniest of things. As I got into my late 20s, I grew more mellower, (“zen-ned” perhaps because I was living alone and had lots of time for reading and introspection) and was able to brush off most of her remarks and refused to be goaded into arguments and generally spacing-out when she began her outburst (I think that makes her madder). However, all that years of manipulations and emotional abuse had developed a clingy, needy, people-pleasing, anxiety-addled, insecure side to me which rears its ugly head occasionally. I nearly got stuck in an abusive relationship because of it, but luckily got out and later met the man of my dreams.
You see, now I have a near-perfect married life. We are not economically well-off, my job is low paying and we live in a shoddy little apartment. But what make each moment worth is that I get to share my life with the most adorable, funny and delightfully weird person imaginable. Many people have enviously exclaimed that we are the perfect couple, made for each other. It is almost telepathic, how we connect. Our tastes, interests and passions are similar and we both are such odd balls that we find everything strange, beautiful and funny. But what they have not seen is the effort we’ve put to overcome our differences – the fights and misunderstanding that happened, especially in the first year of marriage which could have blown out of proportion, if not for the (thankfully) cool-headedness and inherent goofiness we both seem to have. Reading your article made me realize that both of us (my husband and I) have a few emotional bullying traits within us. It is not apparent in the small tiffs (usually the outcome of stress after a long week) which generally ended with us hugging, laughing and moving on.
But rarely, very rarely (I guess 4-5 times in our first two years of marriage) we have had such major, terrible, draining fights that seem to bring out our horrible, evil sides. While I shout, rant, throw things and try to humiliate him he resorts to sarcasms, gas-lighting and stone-walling. Once I even flushed down his pet fish, an act that made me so shocked with myself because I am usually a very serene, easy-going person. During those initial fights I made a mistake of confiding everything to my mother and she took joys in trying to convince me to end my marriage, feeding me ideas that my husband might be cheating, and to be suspicious of his intentions. Somehow from the third year of marriage we both mellowed and grew closer to each other than ever before. Every evening we longed to get back home to each other, go for rides, talk for hours over breakfast and discuss our plans to move to the hilly suburbs. We rarely had fights and I stopped discussing my plans with my mom or anyone else because all she did was try to convince me that I am living a shitty, goal-less life and my joys in the simple pleasures annoyed her no end.
Anyway, six months ago, my husband quit his job to start his own business. It was a well-discussed, mutually-agreed decision. We badly wanted to move to a better place and do our own business and since we didn’t have too much capital, it was agreed that I’ll continue working while he set up the business. It was the start of rather trying times for us because our income suddenly plunged. I took up some freelance work since my salary wasn’t enough to cover the expense. Our quality of life became decidedly lower and it was difficult for my husband to keep his morale up since the patriarchal mind-set of our society tended to look down on a man who didn’t have a job and was supported by his wife. Although we kept this arrangement a secret, his parents and a few of our friends knew and there were these snide and discouraging remarks that occasionally dampened us. Working two jobs made me even more stressed out although my husband was extremely supportive and despite a few setbacks and discouraging remarks from our friends, I kept an optimistic outlook and encouraged him.
Even then, we were prone to outbursts. Both of us were overworked, his parents were constantly nagging us, money was low and our bickering started to become frequent. And yesterday, after three years, we had our first horrible, explosive fight. I am ashamed to say that I threw things, shouted like a mad woman and said humiliating things that would have killed him on the inside. Although we sort of patched up, I could see how deeply hurt he is. I was the one rock that he had, I was the one person he felt was on his side and suddenly I could see how lonely and betrayed he felt. I tried to apologize, we went out for a quick dinner but I can feel a rift. I haven’t slept all night because I have been affected deeply. It was a miracle that I found this article. Reading the article and the stories that people have shared had put some perspective on things. I wish things would heal. My spouse is my best friend, I cannot bear lose what I have built.
I guess after suffering for a long time I’ve become an emotional bully as well, and I guess I was drawn to this site when my girlfriend told me she found me scary. It was probably the worst thing ever and it struck me really deep. I knew I needed to change.
Hi Ken,
I googled “Emotional Bully” after my partner and who I considered my best mate voiced that I have been abusing her for the 13 years of our relationship. I hesitantly viewed your article and put a tick next to everyone of your points.
I am 46 and my partner is 36. I thought I had this awesome self-awareness and inadvertently put myself on my own pedestal!
We have a 9 month old baby and the feelings of emotional abuse have escalated. The vicious cycle of wanting to protect but instead damaging both my partner and baby emotionally in the long run is awake call.
Changing my behaviour will not occur overnight but recognising elements of that emotional bullying behaviour seems to be working.
My partner tells me of my contradictory ways and the impact this makes on her ability to have clarity with decision making. I currently feel like I am second guessing what she wants to hear and is making me indecisive. Which is frustrating her. Is this another form of me emotionally abusing my partner as I know I should chuck these indecisions but I’m struggling with what I stand for now and still look at the uncertainty of the relationship as a reason to change my behaviours.
The thought cycle of an emotional bully is vicious…
[…] Could I be a bully? Looking at less abusive exchanges. What you consider light humor or banter between friends might free someone of something restrictive, especially if you have their trust, and they are 100% certain you don’t mean anything negative by it. The difference people trolling anonymously seem to forget is, they don’t know that person, their situation, and if they are getting an intense reaction, it’s doubtful they are appearing as a friend having fun with them when it’s done in an impersonal way like this. And even if you do know them… […]
I tick every point 🙁 my marriage is failing and my two small children are going to soon realise that it’s my fault. I am an emotional bully. And while you helped me realise that, it’s not something you can just switch off. Being brought up in care, I have my excuses, but that doesn’t help anything. I need a switch in my brain that stops mu automatic reaction to be ‘explode’. I feel that I have been aggressive towards my husband for so long, that it’s a natural reaction now. All he needs to do is suggest something that I don’t want to do (last weekend was a day trip out as a family)… A nice idea that resulted in a 3 day argument. I personally feel irritated by him, but have no idea why. He’s gotten too close, perhaps. It’s very typical of me to walk away from anything that could lead to me being hurt.
Anyway, any tips on how to retrain yourself to respond calmly instead of going straight to fury, would be great. The desire to change is not enough, and easier said than done.
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I want to thank you for clarifying the definition of bullying and its associated behaviors. I have long tried to understand whether specific recurring behaviors are actually bullying, and I am now certain that it has reared it’s ugly head in my marriage more than a few times. Having been on the receiving end of hurtful bullying, I have often been livid, paralyzed and perplexed simultaneously. I do believe that for some individuals their bullying tactics are so ingrained into their personality that to change this behavior would be virtually impossible. I’m not certain how likely it is that there will be measurable change in my household, but I am certain that I don’t have to tolerate this type of treatment. Thank you again for your insight.
You’re welcome, Warriormom (LOVE that name!). No, you do not have to tolerate emotional bullying. Sounds like it isn’t a daily experience, but something that has happened from time to time over the course of your relationship? I may be reading that wrong, but sounds like that’s what was implied. Boundaries well defined before a fight (when emotional bullying usually takes place) will embolden you to enforce those boundaries during a fight. If, for instance, your spouse starts to yell and scream and you’ve informed him of the ground rules for a disagreement and what you will do if he doesn’t respect those ground rules, walking away and staying away for an hour or more can help retrain him at least in what will not be allowed in your relationship. Don’t return fire with fire, but also don’t roll over and allow him to burn you either. You’re teaching your children what men do and what women should tolerate. So don’t tolerate anything you wouldn’t want your children to tolerate. I wish you peace and happiness in life. God bless!
I’m spouse of an emotional bully (male). Not only can I relate, I’ve also always thought Narcissistic Personality Disorder and emotional bullies go hand in hand. Very similar in so many ways.
So sorry to hear that. And yes, you are absolutely right that narcissism and emotional bullying do indeed go hand in hand. That’s what makes it so difficult for them to change. They blame everyone else for how they feel, for what they say and for what they do. Everything others do is a reflection of how they have failed to truly love them. They are the center of their own world and feel threatened and attacked when they are not equally the center of your world at any given moment in time. That’s why I wrote the article. I want emotional bullies to start to take responsibility for themselves. I iwsh you the best at establishing boundaries in your life where you can love and flourish.
What a waste of time… You basically just describe 9 out of 10 fights between lovers… In which case, 9 out of 10 lovers are emotional bullies…. For which you give ZERO tools to help them “improve”…. Plus, so many clichees… So much crudity and heartlessness in describing your former relationship that it does not show any of that “maturity” you are talking about. And, in any case, to talk about maturity in love relationships is so immature…. Have you ever seen two kids loving each other!?
I don’t mean to sound condescending here, Shao, but relationships aren’t supposed to be like you say 9 out of 10 are. That’s terrible. I’m not sure what kind of people you surround yourself with, but they certainly don’t make up 9 out of 10 marital fights of the people in my life.
Someone who is an emotional bully is a bully. That 9 of 10 people you know are emotional bullies does not make it right. If you actually read the article, you will find exceptions to what I list. Crying, for example, is not necessarily a bully tactic. But it CAN be if it’s used to manipulate the other person into giving in during an argument.
“To talk about maturity in love relationships is so immature.” What do you mean by that? I’m not even sure what to say in response. Why on earth would you use two kids loving each other as the standard to measure anything? Teens are, almost by definition, self-centered and immature. I would never hold kids loving each other as a standard for adult, marital love. That you do is telling, I think.
An immature person can’t fully love another person because they do not have the emotional interdependence and the emotional stability needed to love another at the deepest level. If this doesn’t make sense to you, you may not have ascended to the kind of love I’m talking about.
This article is already over 3,500 words long. So sorry if you wanted me to write something else as my topic (and I welcome you to write something up. If it’s good, I’ll post it and link your advice to this one), but the post wasn’t about the cure, it was a diagnosis, as stated in the article itself. Can’t cure what’s ignored or denied.
As for my ex, well, I’m 51 years old and she was something like a billion years ago, married with kids now, living in a different state. No names were used and no one in my MeanttobeHappy community knows anything about her or who I’ve dated in the past. So her anonymity is safe. Thanks for caring so intently about her. That was thoughtful, even if misplaced.
Anyway, thanks for sharing your perspective. Just happen to disagree with it. Wish you luck in life and hope neither you nor your spouse ever use what you think 9 of 10 people do to justify ugly marital behavior.
Reading this article was difficult for me. Realising some of the things I do Mostly shouting but not due to disagreement I have with my partner but constant nagging, critising, saying something and doing exactly the opposite things. 10 years , 10 long years and still continues. I think I have turned into bully I wasn’t like this I am sure. I think it came to a point that my anger manifest itself in different ways. Interestingly in my dreams I have started to scream and cuss at him. I never felt angry in my life and I have to deal with his family too. our cultural background is different I am Turkish and he is Indian. This is also used against me although I have tried my best to adapt his culture and religion. He does push me for the things which I don’t want to do. if I don’t do then he starts how antisocial I am how stupid I am and so on. His mother goes around and tell me I am money sucking bitch. If I don’t do what his father wants then he will create friction every time. If I am sick it is because I am smoking I am useless or I am always sick according to him. If I am tired , then he says when didn’t I feel tired? By the way i have anemia. Nothing makes him happy until he gets his way. If I have friend he will find something to manipulate against me. 10 yrs I am living under this condition and I think I have turned into one emotional bully. When I read this article I literally became sick. Sick to my stomach to think that I am also the one. I don’t know what to do.
Dear Jasmin
Self Defense is not bullying. Just saying. All my love, from Helizna
Thank you for the mirror Ken!
Your writing style helps highlight negative traits of oneself with the goal of self-improvement.
May we all do this! I know that i will.
Your page got me socked in tears as I went for a legal advise today and options I received remains storms in my already traumatized spirit. I am a victim to an emotional bully by my husband. I was 25 years and my spouse 40 when we got married. Actually, I had to give in to marriage in order to escape from the bully of a step mother and step siblings and unfortunately ended up with a husband who has emotionally bullied me for 22years. As a Christian and mother of 4,i have strived to survive and remain in the relationship because of my culture. My spouse has never supported me to upgrade my carrier but any upgrade l made that brought increase to my paycheck adds to my ugly experience. He has been jealous and in secured and verbalizes that I look young and admirable despite his torture
. I have called in police but when ever the police arrived , he would fake his story and because he tactfully avoids to bite me, the police would dismiss the case and tell me that there was no violence but misunderstanding. He dances to see police leave without reprimanding him. He turned our family house into a taxing office last year without my consent, exposing me and my kids to danger as you see strangers trooping in and out of my home that I strived to maintain. He is after my paycheck, he blackmailed me that I sleep around and has suicidal ideation, he boss’s me, does not contribute to the upkeep of the home as the man in the house, he threatened divorce many times. He threw away expensive home property I bought for kitchen use, he splits my relationship with close friends by abusing their husband’s mind. He said he will keep me lonely in the United States until I pack out of the home alife or as corpse. He calls my children for meet all the time against me. It is just too much that I feel that I may live my life without knowing true love. I thought of divorce but he knows that my job pays me more and almost 90% home investment were made by me. He believed that if I go for divorce that I will loose more. More issues that I can not explain all this time. I have no relative where I reside but he ganged up with his brother who lives close to us to make my life miserable. What Should I do to have my joy back and remains the pleasant lady I use to be with people knowing that he is pushing me into loneliness and depression. I know that I can go for divorce but my lovely kids have cried to me that they do not want to have experience of separated parents. I am just confused and this situation is changing my temperament and who I use to be.
Good piece, perhaps an important driver of bullying is that bullies generally view themselves as victims of their lesser half’s inadequacies. They believe their partner is letting them down, even if untrue. So their anger is righteous, 90% of their motivation and continuation. The bullied one knows nothing will ever please the bully, but it is natural to try harder, before retreating or giving up, like the husband in ‘Strictly Ballroom’.
I looked up this article because last night my longtime fiancee’ and I had a fight which like usual was mostly started because of me. I fear that I may be turning into a slightly abusive partner and I am terrified of who I am when I do these things. But I can’t help becoming nauseated and filled with rage when people who I hope to be my comforting loved ones and who make me feel safe and accepted, casually state things or enjoy suddenly out of nowhere things that are rooted in offensive topics that hurt me. My boyfriend is not openly aggressive or totally racist but he enjoys media that I find hurtful and tells me not to even try to ever watch the news or read magazines, or care about human rights issues because being white, it doesn’t have real effect on our lives and there’s no need to be stressed out about things that don’t have direct impact on me. I should just be a dumb and happy girl, who smiles and isn’t depressed. Whenever I get depressed or frustrated by the world, he tells me to “just stop being depressed and move on.” He doesn’t understand that it doesn’t always work that easily and maybe, I do not always WANT to smile dumbly and move on like a bubbly airhead. Having family who lived thru the Holocaust, and friends of various race/activists, it is very hard to swallow the idea that I should just say “Ha ha, you’re right and I am over-reacting/everybody protesting any injustice at all/negative treatment or mockery of their race is over-reacting, nothing matters anyhow!” I can’t let go of issues, and yet I might as well, because I know I lack any real power to change others. I guess I wear hope within my heart, that my partner will change this laissez-faire opinion, if I explain hard enough why it’s wrong. Or moreover I don’t so much want him to change, but that he’d at least consider my feelings and regard these issues as important to me, not mock me for caring about them. But the more I try to explain why it hurts me, the more he just tells me I am being silly, and preaches the blessings of ignorance of the news and just straight apathy. Thus the more frightened and frustrated I become, for the future safety of me, my people, my gender, my future children… I don’t know what to really ask OF him so much as I just want someone to care about my views and make me feel like if I had to plan an escape from tyranny or any natural or political disasters, I would be validated, or at least comforted and protected, not just teased or hand-waved. I get angry, wondering if his casual racism would ever leak out, what would all my social activist peers say. I get so frustrated…and I physically lash out. Or call him willful idiot or far more horrible names. …As frustrating as my partner’s behavior is, I know he never means it to the intent of hurting my feelings on purpose, and he has never EVER hurt me physically or truly called me a dummy out loud. He’s called me a worry-wart, or unhinged, but I indeed am being those things when he says so. He’s never been a real, actual bully, in the sense that he’s never purely acted with intent to get me to feel bad about myself. Insecure as I always am, I build up this paranoia that under his calm lack of insults, and cheerful statements of apathy, he thinks I am a fool all the time/actually is even more racist or against my views than he lets on. What if he finds calling me names just not worth his time not just because he loves me, but maybe because he thinks I am/my politics are all stupid to even give credence to. I just want to know that my partner of 13 years isn’t with me because I am giving him a roof and food, beyond that, he sees me as a silly nitwit to humor and pat on the head. I never know how others truly feel about me. I feel like he, like everyone else, sees me just as a stupid over-emotional, weak clueless child-…. and so I ironically behave like one in reaction to my fears. I so yearn for once in my life to not be regarded as such, because my parents raised me lovingly but with also a lot of emotional, verbal and physical abuse at times, so I am geared for the worst. They’re both racists too, and the irony of that sickens me. I just feel surrounded on all sides. So I lash out. When certain hot topics in conversation come up, I behave exactly just like a bully! Part of me wants to follow my partner’s sage advice, and just not care about everything, or any of his rude comments or racist comedy/media choices. It really doesn’t have an actual impact on my life, at end of the day, like he says. But at the same time, I see history repeat itself in such hideous ways, I see so much idle bigotry and destructive cruelty and environmental pollution around me, all I CAN do is feel like I am stuck at a party, and everyone in the castle is cheering as the city around outside burns and all the peasants scream, like I am the only one who cares and I feel so helpless, frightened and trapped. So I lash out, wanting to make justice, but being too clueless to know how to better achieve any. What do I do? Am I a terrible partner? How can I stop becoming physical during a fight? How do I just turn my brain off when my loved ones do things like this or talk about hot button topics around me, so I don’t freak out? Or is that unacceptable? Shouldn’t someone TRY to say or do the right thing when others think it’s okay to just smile and nod at cruel words or discriminatory facist laws or genocide abroad??
[…] Be self-aware; don’t become the emotional bully. […]
This article is so enlightening, I am on the side of the bullied and I recognized the vast majority of the bully behavior signs you lay down with clarity. I would add to them another one, the bully can use sarcasm; a kind of humor which hurts and disorganizes completely the inner world of the bullied.
Instinctively, in the ending of this relationship I needed to lay down my thoughts to him in a written manner in case he can take time and recognize it, but no! Emotional abusers have a great deal of anger and stubbornness, which makes it impossible to change their mind, while the bullied changes their behavior and tiptoes to stop firing any possible fighting. I have tried to understand why he is a bully and I can’t find much information why he has developed this approach in human relationships. It is said that bullies reproduce a behavior from their childhood, either something they found that gave them power or something they found that gave power to others in their ambience (parents for instance). But there’s got to be more.
The problem is not to find what triggered the bullies to become bullies. The problem is to find the strength to disengage yourself as a bullied from the bully. Try this:
1) Do not underestimate your critical thought and the truth of your words – this is how bullies want you to feel because it feeds their sens of power over you. The bullies have a developed intellect most times and can twist everything against the bully. They show off their power.
2) Bullies have good traits too at the extent they become an exaggeration (e.g. dedication to the degree of possession) which can disorganize the bullied, so write down and repeat to yourself the bad behaviors of the person that bullies you – the bullied wants you to feel sorry but it is healthier to feel angry, it puts yourself first.
3) If you recognize that you are being bullied and you stay, it is normal. But remember that you cannot fix the bully (professional help would possibly, but bullies usually do not want to change and they do not think something is wrong with them). Again, it is normal to feel like staying and rescuing a relationship in which you have invested time, energy and resources, but remember that your mental health is more important. By staying, you waste more time and invest more energy, which is drained from within you and you miss the chance of finding yourself and meeting a person who will appreciate you. Free the seat next to you, so that it can be filled by a person who will not cause you such pain – you deserve better.
4) Do not put into your question your intellect if you are being bullied. Most probably, you are a kind-hearted person and there is nothing wrong with your intelligence. Give time to yourself to build again your self-esteem that has been damaged. Surround yourself with people that respect you and can lift you up, try to take out of your head the voice of the bully and see their inconsistencies and immaturity. Ask for help if needed. Without losing your kindness and trust in people, start building your boundaries and write down your red flags for future reference. Soon another person will be in your life and neither want you to be overstrict with that person nor want you to fall again in the same pattern of putting up with the other person’s insecurities. Ask for help (friends, professionals, slef-help books) and set your realistic limits of what is a deal-breaker next time – be prepared and love yourself more. Identify the bully’s behavior and do not reproduce it to protect yourself. You can trust again.
In the end, your experience is of great value. You can help a friend or acquaintance if you know the signs. People who are bullied in an old relationship can easier identify the signs and alarm you. This is how it happened with me, when a friend who had been into an emotional abusive relationship before told me that what I am experiencing is not normal and that raised me from ignorance. I am still trying to stand on my feet and regain my self-value. So, do not let the bully take it away from you in the first place.
Good luck with meeting normal people!
PS: To the bullies that have written in the comments that they recognize themselves into the described behavior in the article, with all the respect, if you really want to help yourselves, seek for professional help and become humble. It does not mean weak, it means that you see the other person equally. Control your temper and mirror the behavior of the other person without mocking or humiliating, do not repeat behaviors you are used to. Listen, commit to listening what the bullied says!
From the side of a bullied recently posted … How to Find Light in the Darkest of Times (one woman’s harrowing story)
im living this i reared 3 kids of other men and then 4 off my own and every word said above applies im so sad ,and a male
I was reading this and feeling extremely sad as I recognised my partner in this behaviour. We have some really good days and then there are bad ones….I am the person who prefers to avoid the escalation of the argument however I want to put my message across and be heard, so I often try to continue what I see as a ‘discussion’ but he does exactly the same as you described: cursing, telling me to stop, interrupting, yelling, running out of the house and going to a pub. He blames me for ‘ruining’ our evening, he’s very bad at communication, he talks down at me. The things get worse when his 8 year old daughter comes to visit, as then he becomes stressed and bossy treating us both like children. He does not express any warm feelings towards me in front of her and most of the times he just criticises me. He is easily annoyed and can’t stand criticizm. Sometimes he ignores when I ask him something and then gets angry when I repeat the question. I feel my feelings are being completely disregarded, but I really feel sorry for him. We have a big age difference and sometimes I wonder whether he uses that as an excuse to bully me. I know he’s had hard times in his life and perhaps that impacted him, but when he admits he is being excessively unpleasant and angry, he says he’s always been like that. I don’t know what to do, will counselling help us..? Has anyone tried? Thank you. O
I’m feeling really hurt right now. My girlfriend of two years just accused me of bullying her. And I read this list and sure enough, I do some of the things on this list.
Our problems sort of started when we were moving in together. I offered to pay her rent for a few months so she could pay down her student loan debt. We were supposed to be on track for us to start a family. Instead, she bought clothes and a TV for her aunt. I felt resentful.
4 months later, she still hadn’t mentioned paying her way. We had a fight about money, and I brought up how she still hadn’t even mentioned paying her rent. I resented that again. During this fight, she asked me to stop working on my side business (it was making thousands of dollars a month at the time). I did that to make her happy, even though I knew it was a bad idea.
A few months after that, she lost her job. Mind you, in the 8 months she worked that job, she earned as much money as I did that entire year (in my full-time job). I felt really bad for her, and I promised to support her. I told her I wanted her to look for a job, and she gave up on that after a couple of months.
She started a work-from-home social media franchise thing. I respected that, and I saw her working hard for her goals. I kept on paying the bills, and asked her to look for a part-time job, too. Something to help keep us afloat while her business takes off.
I have a full-time job, but during this whole time, I’ve had to take money out of my side-business too. I ended up owing the government thousands of dollars because of this situation. I never wanted to be in debt. I have worked hard my whole life to get out of debt, and I didn’t want this. I resent the hell out of that.
So my girlfriend finally gets her part-time job. And she likes it. And she tells me she wants to turn it into a full-time job. And that she still wants to do her side business.
Meanwhile, I had started putting more time into the side business. And it’s finally starting to pay off. But now she’s telling me that she needs me to give it up so that she can do her thing.
I resent this whole situation. I resent being put in a position where I’m the hero and the bad guy for “being controlling” about money, WHEN I’M THE ONLY SOURCE OF INCOME AND THE MONEY IS ALREADY SPENT ANYWAY.
I understand that my resentment is coming out in bad ways, and that they affect my girlfriend. I know that I need to forgive and move on. I have even forgiven her, but every time a new money problem comes up, it fills me with literal rage. Right now, I can’t pay my taxes, pay to get my car fixed, pay to get an oil change, pay the landscaper. And she’s going to New Orleans for a week!
Hi Ken,
Thanks a million for this insightful and positive article. I went looking for ideas to deal with my angry partner and came here only to find I was reading about myself. I feel ashamed – but also positive that I kept on reading and have bookmarked your post to return to. Not to say Mr doesn’t have these traits too, or is all good – but I see how my own insecurities are fuelling our issues and damaging our family.
Deep breaths and an open mind for the next disagreement.
Naomi
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GOOD LORD!! THANK YOU SOSO MUCH FOR THIS!!! I have been in a relationship with an emotional bully for more than 5years and have recently found myself sometimes breaking under it and becoming physically abusive back at him it’s terrible!! It’s like being a kind animal who gets wounded by his words then backed into a corner and terrified (because of being in a very abusive physically relationship in the past getting beat up sometimes for I don’t know what for 12 years before I finally had the courage to get out) so I have begun to feel my ONLY defense left is to strike out, throw stuff, ANYTHING, and yell back louder and not let him talk because he’s so good at saying whatever it takes to put me in a whirlwind of crap verbally just to be the winner and have total dominance over the situation!! My first couple of years with him he’d bereat me and verbally TORTURE me while at work for not being home or for taking longer than a few seconds to answer him back in a text! I was a bus driver at the time and every single time I had a trip, day or after school this would happen. I’d be crying so hard that I almost couldn’t see to drive on my way home often and no matter my pleas a to stop he refused if I wasn’t a in total agreeable with him in whatever and then I’d be tortured I with why I couldn’t just agree in the first a place (cuz he was WRONG!?) I wasn’t allowed to go places without him without a verbal spanking and it never mattered why it took too long to answer a text (in a checkout lane with arms completely full and can’t get my phone out of my pocket “you should’ve set your stuff on the floor to let me know what you are doing and why you couldn’t text me” SERIOUSLY!). Mostly he’s an amazing man as long as you don’t disagree with him or suggest a more beneficial way of doing something like parenting MY son whom he constantly bullies and claims it’s his fault. My son has picked up some of his detrimental behavior and is often so angry and stressed. Last weekend I was arrested and spent the weekend in jail due to an argument that came in record time due to my suggesting a “non asshole” way of my son learning another aspect of respect. At first he left me at the restaurant (with a broken foot I got the day before while golfing haha) I’d started walking and he came back for me. I got in the backseat to distance myself a little and immediately he started yelling and swearing at me about my seat choice and the yelling at me continued about my “always making everything his fault and all the problems are all about him”(blah blah boohooing…usually everything HAS to be about him!) and it didn’t stop and I couldn’t tell him any different and that it was about effectively teaching a lesson not just bullying him about it and I was cornered and afraid and couldn’t do anything and so many other things in life had been crashing around me I just broke again and started hitting him with whatever I could find in his car. He turned around while driving and tried to take stuff out of my hand, letting go of the wheel and we almost got another car TWICE before he’d pull over at which time I got out and started walking. About ten minutes later he came back for me demanding I get in and he wouldn’t talk anymore. He dropped me off at my Dr appt and left. Again I had to walk across town to home. When I got home thee see police talking to him and I GOT ARRESTED FOR 3RD DEGREE ASSAULT!! In this state that gets a mandatory restraining order so after spending all weekend in jail my son and I can’t go home, can’t have any kind of communication with him at all…we’ve been made homeless for at least ten days. Making matters worse, while I was in jail, my good friend went and moved a bunch of my stuff out of the house without my consent and put it into a storage unit making it even harder to go back home when I’m allowed. All because I had suggested an effective way of teaching a lesson of respect BEFORE he had even said he just wanted to plow into him when he didn’t move over in the hallway letting the adult pass. It’s such craziness!!! I feel so badly that I’ve stopped to the level of being an abused because of not leaving last year but I was afraid of the confrontation of moving out! When he suggested moving in with me everything inside screamed NOOO DONT DO IT but fear of his confrontational abusive nature took over already even then so I said yes. I am a veteran when frustrated, angry, or hurting but never just so I can get what I want. I learned as a child that only gets you a spanking haha I want so badly for him to realize the damage he causes and his “not nearly as mean and nasty as I used to be” excuse is just that and as a man who believes in God’s grace and love and is truly a man of prayer and can be SO fantastic, I just wish he’d wake up and stop the madness because together we could do great and MIGHTY things for GOD if we could just use our passions together and not just for attacking and defending which has become our brokenness and my heart breaks constantly for what we could be and never will be because he refused to even think for a second that he may just actually be in the wrong.
GOD BLESS YOU SAM for taking the time and effort to write this exhaustive piece. I’m sure it wasn’t easy for you but it’s SO SPOT ON!! THANK YOU A THOUSAND TIMES!!!
I was bullied as a young girl by my mother, father and brother and my ill formed belief that bullying was ok otherwise I would not believe my family loved me. Now as 60 year old woman in my second marriage I have bullied my husband and justified it because he was stonewalling. It became a competition – I thought I could bully if he was not communicating with me. My 29 year old son was arrested this year for domestic abuse and he spent 30 days in rehab for alcohol abuse. I am his surety and he lives with us. He bullies me. I have bullied him in the past but I don’t now. I have told him I want to stop bullying my husband and he says just enjoy life, don’t be so hard on yourself, you will never be perfect. I told him I didn’t want him yelling, swearing and criticizing me anymore and I think he learned it from me. He is where I was for years, believing I had the right to judge people and tell them exactly what I thought of them and then apologize and tell them to get over it. Yikes. Mirror, mirror.
Hi,
I have read this very insightful article and almost everything is exactly how I feel my twin sister is. I have felt for years and years that she doesn’t treat me right but I never knew what to define it as, and when I was younger I had convinced myself that it was a normal/standard sibling relationship. After going off to uni and having housemates watch both of our behaviour for a long term period, I have finally been informed by them that no, she does not treat me right and I cant keep letting it go over my head. Now I finally know she has for years (and still very much is) emotionally bullying me. We are identical twins, 23 years old, and although very similar interests/talents, we could not be so different in our characters, particularly how we deal with things/problems/situations. She is an extremely confrontational person and when an issue arises between the two of us, no matter how small the ‘issue’ is, it will take her only a matter of minutes to wind herself up so much that she is at a stage of extreme angry: she swears, shouts, has temper tantrums, slams doors, is very aggressive, won’t let me speak, tells me what to do etc. And to make matters worse, she never apologies. She’s 23 and she still acts this way? She does not realises how much it’s damaging me and how much she’s pushing me away. At this point in time, I want nothing to do with her because of how malicious her behaviour can be towards me (and towards my parents too). It’s like she has zero respect for the people closest to her (me as her sister, and my parents). It also absolutely shocks me how little respect she has for my parents too, when they do so much for us and we have good relationships with them. Another thing I notice is how she blames me for everything, even if I’ve had zero involvement in the original issue, I am ‘somehow’ always the ’cause’ of the issue. She uses me as a punch bag for her own frustration/problems. At the end of the day, my twin sister was my best friend and we were extrememly close, we have the same friends and many of the same life experiences. But now I just feel damaged by her and so hurt that I dont want anything to do with her until I see a massive change in her behaviour towards me. I’m just finding it extremely difficult at the moment because we are both now living back at home with our parents (we both just recently graduated). I feel very stuck and very down with it all at the moment and it’s really weighing on my happiness, and causing me a lot of hurt and stress.
This is an inspiring blog post. Thank you for sharing constructive advice and criticism for all of us. Your post has a wealth of useful information that could help us improve ourselves and live towards happier lives in recriporcal manners. I rarely comment on blog posts, but I can’t help doing so with yours.
I admire your approach of writing this blog from the point of view of the emotional bully as opposed to the bullied, without sounding harsh, yet with logical criticism and compassion.
Thank you, you put into words what I needed to hear, and be able to say.
Thank you again.
I’m really not sure what to say. All this time I’ve stayed with a person who was perhaps a victim of childhood instability and now is the worst form of emotional and physical bully. Although he’s only physically hurt me once, it really scares me to talk back now. I’m forced to silence myself and he even has the audacity to tell me that when he’s mad, I shouldn’t be talking back, but later when he cools down. And it really hurts me because I’m not the kind of person who would argue over something that has already been settled (even if it’s not settled for me but fear keeps me quiet).
He punishes me as well. But his punishments are very peculiar. He tries to force himself upon me and then says that this punishment is not really punishment, because he’s loving me. He does not understand that I dont want closure. That I’m hurt and I want to hear him say sorry and make it up to me. He’s only just there for his pleasure. He forces me on my knees and makes me do things that can easily be categorized as assault, had he not been my boyfriend.
He is a bully, I’ve checked all these signs green as I was reading. And I was so naive all this time thinking that he’s just under pressure because of work. He’s older. And he belittles me for everything. He never appreciates no matter what I do. He compares me with his other female friends and tells me that they are all better than me, and why. He’s threatened to leave me and has left me multiple times too, but every time he would come back and I’d let him in. I simply dont understand as to why did I do that.
Doing things that can be categorized as assault is still assault even when done by a boyfriend. Boyfriend status does not give bullying or rape or any other such violent rights. If he did what it sounds like you’re saying he did, he is a twisted person who is selfish and disgusting. Forcing you to do sexual acts on him as a way to “make up” after a fight is simply evil. No person, boyfriend, husband, anyone, has the right to punish another adult. You have to get away from this poor excuse of a man. If you stay with him, you will likely eventually have a baby. And he will be that baby’s father. Your baby will grow up seeing what he does, how he treats you and will likely be treated similarly. You owe it to your future kids to protect them from him. Don’t wait for the next time he leaves you. Kick him out now. If he comes back, respect yourself and protect your future kids from this beast. If he promises to be better, know it’s a lie. You already know this. Be strong. get help from family and friends and law enforcement, if needed or you fear his reaction. You deserve more. you deserve better. You are worthy of someone who treats you well. You are worthy of someone who treats you with respect and dignity. If he has raped you, report it. Forced sexual activity is rape. Period. Please protect yourself with every legal means at your disposal.
I wish the best for you and pray for your safety and happiness. Do the right thing. The longer you wait, the harder things will get. Decide and do it. Please.
My husband bullies me and i just can’t find the girl I was any more… i have two children and my older son 8 years has started bullying his little sister 4 years old. I am very worried. Should I divorce? I feel like I will be dying soon of a heart attack… and I will not go to the doctor… I am too coward for a divorce
Thank you so much for sharing here. I obviously don’t know the details of your situation. There are bullies who shout a bit until they easily get their way. Then there are bullies who literally beat others up. I don’t know what type of bullying you experience. But no one is morally obligated to live under the yoke of bondage. Living with a bully is living in bondage. You must get out. You owe your children that. That doesn’t necessarily mean leaving him, though. But if talking to him, writing him a letter about how it’s affecting you and the kids, telling him how his behavior is influencing your 8 year old, or other initial conversations don’t work or leads to more bullying, and he won’t go to counseling, you frankly have a bigger choice in front of you. But if you lack the courage for yourself, think about what you are teaching your son and, perhaps even more importantly, the passive acceptance of bullying you’re teaching your 4-year-old daughter. My heart and prayers go out to you, Mar Mar.
, thank you so much for this article I don’t know when it was written I didn’t pay that much attention but I realize that I have been an emotional bully to some people I don’t do it to all of them but to those that I feel Superior over and I guess it’s because I felt so inferior and so insecure most of my life then when I find somebody that’s less Superior than I am I latch onto it like white on rice. I am trying to Mentor a young woman who is severely abused most of her life and Every Witch Way I you can imagine and she can’t seem to understand things when we talk when we have communication and sometimes I just really lash out at her and I guess it’s because in the beginning of a relationship she was extremely rebellious and angry and always bitter about everything and I got fed up with it so that I guess I started to kind of lash back at her I have asked for forgiveness for this and I’ve confessed it to the Lord and I find myself once in awhile still doing that criticism that sarcasm that emotional bullying and I don’t fully understand it I don’t want to do it I despise it when I do it but yet I get just seems to flow out of my mouth at times. Why is that so?
Self-awareness is the first step to improvement, Nan, but seeing yourself in a mirror doesn’t always solve the problem. If you have developed an emotional response that’s been habitually aggressive, expressed over some long period of time, it may take some time to fully overcome it.
Patience and empathy are character muscles that if not historically flexed much, take time to develop. Be patient with yourself as you pray for guidance, read deeply and often from scripture and work at a softer response to her rebellion. Remember that your habitual reaction is no less habitual than her habitual rebellion might be. That understanding can be the first step toward building more empathy for her.
Since you seem to be a woman of faith, let me go into a faith-response a bit more deeply as well.
There is power to be found in scripture and prayer. The more we immerse ourselves in the Word of God, the more spiritual we tend to become. And things like empathy and patience are not only character issues, but are expressions of a deeper, more spiritual part of ourselves as well. Build that core and other traits start to take notice, so to speak. A rich and frequent prayer life is also incredibly useful. Confessions of our mistakes are only part of the prayerful equation. Deeply communicate with your Father in Heaven, pouring open your soul, asking for guidance, insight and the development of those traits you need to improve your relationship with the person you mentor. As you do that, God can take you by the hand and nudge you closer to your goal. Here’s a good spiritual equation I like to follow: Pray, read, ponder, apply. Repeat.
This way, understanding the why becomes less important to your solution. Some of the why can be answered as I did above: Habit. Some of it might be feeling rejected by her rebellion, taking it personally, feeling attacked or hurt by it, going into defense mode instead of love mode. This may be part of your past, your family history. Can’t know for sure without a much longer conversation. But in the end, while knowing the reason can help, it’s most important to do some work on the soul.
God bless you as you follow Christ to better places. And thank you for taking the time and being the kind of person who mentors others in the first place! Thanks for sharing, Nan!
I am an emotional bully, which is very hard to accept and I feel humiliated when I look back at all the drama I put my husband and ex husband through because I could not stand the word NO. Which I blamed on being an only child. I would throw fits, use cuss words, get loud during arguments, Bring up the past to prove my point at the moment, and resort to putting them down with my words so they would feel my pain/emotions and it was always their fault. This article really hit a nerve. I’ve been accused of being pushy/aggressive and demand what I want right now. Also if I was confronted about something I can’t just have a normal convo, I get defensive and the tears start to flow. I hate that I am like that. As I was reading this all I seen was myself, a direct reflection of myself. I am feeling humiliation and relief. Self awareness is a wonderful thing. I want to change this behavior immediately. One day at a time. I believe I was also a emotional bully to my son who is now 25. The great thing is we have a great relationship, I feel like our relationship can be even stronger now that I am aware of my behavior and how I talk to the ones close to me. Thank you……
What a beautiful comment, Holly. Thank you so much for sharing your story. Yes, self-awareness is a beautiful thing. And to see it happen in black and white here is absolutely wonderful. This speaks volumes about you as a person, that you have the openness to see yourself in what I wrote, admit it, and want to take steps to correct it is absolutely beautiful. Imagine the healing that could happen if you wrote a few long letters to those you feel guilty about treating that way, letting them know what you recently discovered and how sorry you are and how much you hope to rebuild what was broken (not necessarily returning to old relationships, but repairing the hurt). Just can go a long way toward your own recovery. Guilt and shame exist to motivate self-correction. Self-awareness is the first step. It’s best to follow up that step by stopping the bullying (of course), then apologizing and asking forgiveness for the past wrongs. It opens doors to their hearts and frees you of the guilt you may still harbor.
PS: Sorry it took so long to reply. I don’t find my way back to my blog as often as I used to. But this comment may have inspired me to return more often!
I’m so sad of where my partner and i have come to in our journey together. We seemily are on the verge of a breakup and I’m afraid i cant stop it. I wish i could have him stumble on this article and have the lights turn on for him on what he is doing. Its highly unlikely but wishful thinking. Fab-u-lous artical BTW. It really struck home for the complexity that I’m living out today. Thank you muchly for the insight. Muah!
Dear Wonderful ole You,
So sorry to hear about your troubles and thank you for your kind words. Sorry it’s been so long in replying, but I just don’t get over to my blog like I used to (other projects have taken over my life!).
I wouldn’t hope your husband stumbles onto my article. I would print it out and tell him that he won’t get another meal until he reads the article and the two of you have a kind heart-to-heart.
If he’s not able or willing to do that, if he explodes in a rage, then you know where you and your happiness stand in his life. Then you have bigger and harder decisions to make.
But never pin your happiness on luck. Be proactive. Now, it’s true that it may lead to a sort of push off the cliff. But to me, nothing is worse than floating on false hope, living life walking on eggshells and trying to balance your emotional needs on the edge of an emotional cliff with your toes hanging over and your happiness draining into emptiness.
I wish you the best as you try to navigate your next step in life. Be strong and be wise and make your own happiness at least as important as his. By the way, if you have young children in the mix, there is a level of complexity that I can’t really respond to without knowing much more than is detailed in your comment. Young children should come first in such situations and without knowing degree, frequency and other circumstances related to your particular relationship issues, I can’t offer much by way of advice.
Still, your life should not be sacrificed at the altar of your husbands emotional manipulation. Hope things work out.
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i work 6 days a week .spend 1 day with my kids from an ex relationship. if i want to go for a pint of beer with my friends its pure drama.. i am not allowed to use my phone because she thinks im doin the dirty.. i have to choose my work shifts because if girls are working she goes on a rant.. she slams doors because i just sit back an say sorry. or ok. i dont even want to argue… i feel like such a d—head because i wont tell her to f- off … i no im not happy but i wont leave and i dont know why..
Hey Dave, thank you for sharing. I don;t spend as much time here at M2bH as I used to, so I’m sorry for the delayed reply. I do have a question for you though: You mentioned a kid from an ex-relationship. Do you have kids in your current relationship as well? If so, that complicates things.
But if not, it’s time you think about offering an ultimatum. Sort of a “You have 3 weeks for us to get into therapy or I’m leaving”. She may not believe you, unless you start packing your bags at the start of the third week. I know that’s manipulative, but only if you have no intention of leaving. And your marital happiness depends on something changing. Relationships should not be prison sentences.
Sometimes packing (anything that starts the ball moving) can be enough momentum to go all the way if things don’t change. But if she has no interest in doing what’s needed to improve the relationship, that says a lot about her and your future.
Of course, if your past behavior (addictions to porn, cheating, strip clubs, and the like) are the reasons for her hyper-jealousy and lack of trust and heightened desire to control your circumstances and behavior, then that’s also a different cup of tea. You can’t talk yourself out of something you behaved yourself into. If you cheated at the bar, then going there for w pint with your mates is like scratching open old wounds then saying, in effect, “Deal with it!” Trust comes slowly when it’s been kicked in the gut.
I obviously don’t know your background, Dave, but if she’s just a jealous, controlling, manipulative person without cause, then getting therapy, getting out, or trying to find a comfortable corner in your prison sentence seems the only likely options. Choose your future wisely.
Ken,
I worry that I am an emotional bully. I certainly don’t want to be like that. In a situation particularly with my adult son who lives at home, he tends to be very disrespectful and not wanting to pull his weight in terms of helping out either with chores or by paying a few of his own bills. We have gotten into some doozy are you bands that involve screaming, crying, and occasional swear, etc. I feel fresh frustrated because it’s like he doesn’t hear me. I tend to take most of it as opposed to my husband because I am the one to enforce or reinforce the things that we’ve tried to establish in terms of those things I mentioned above. We have sought counseling. I just don’t know what to do. I feel so horrible and yet I wish my adult son would be more responsible and respectful. I’m just so sad.
From what I understand from what you wrote, you might not be as much of an emotional bully as it seems to you. There is a difference between emotionally bullying someone into submission and having an explosive reaction to being disrespected.
Ultimatums tend to be helpful in these circumstances. In that kind of situation, you might consider sitting your son down and letting him know that as an adult, it’s time for him to either help out or find a new place to live. Give him a date by which he needs to have a job and a percent of costs or a specific rent amount he needs to pay you and your husband for the right to remain in your home. You can also lay down rules about respect. Write up and proposal and have him sign it. If he refuses, let him know that he has a month to find a place to live, after which, his belongings will be shipped off and the locks on the doors will be changed.
Disrespect in your own home when he has no legal claim to your care as an adult and his refusal to help seems beyond the pale. This way you can stop yelling and screaming, stop the emotional explosions and just calmly lay down the law and give him the deadline and follow through. It could be the most loving thing you can do for him. It’s time he grows up and this can be the catalyst to get it going.
Good luck, Karen! Let me know how it goes.
I have to disagree with the crying part. Crying is a natural response to getting hurt. It is a natural response to the heartache you feel when the person you love with an unwavering love knows how to hate more than love because all that person knew growing up was dominance. When you truly love the other person, crying is never a ploy to gain sympathy.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us, but I’m not sure exactly where we disagree. The very first sentence I started with in that segment was this: “For most people, crying is not likely a tool used to intentionally manipulate the outcome of a disagreement.”
And remember, we’re talking about disagreements, not an emotional response to a hurtful act or statement. I’ve known people who cried during “fights” then used the fact of their crying to demand the other give in and give up, declaring that if they don’t, it’s proof they have no love and no heart. That’s a manipulative tactic.
If one person in a relationship always “wins” when they cry and they always cry when disagreements surface, then that means one person always “loses”. One can cry and still allow a disagreement to continue because they recognize it’s manipulative to always impose a “win” on the relationship simply because he or she cries easily.
You see, it’s not a bully tactic to cry. It’s emotional bullying when you use the tears to bully the other into submission every time the tears start to flow, especially when they always flow. That’s not, however, what I mean if the other person turns verbally aggressive, verbally bashing the crier, calling her names when they disagree. That’s a tearful response to being bullied.
That’s no more than a reasonable expectation that the meanness to stop, not necessarily expecting a “win” in the argument.
So the situation you describe doesn’t seem to me to really fit with what I claimed. To cry when someone expresses in words or deeds hatred and dominance is potentially an emotional reaction to someone else’s emotional bullying.
So my interpretation of what you explained isn’t what I was talking about. Remember, I also suggested that “A bully who bullies because his parents bullied him is still a bully. So it is with chronic criers who use their tears to get their way (this does NOT mean that all chronic criers use their tears to end or control an argument.”
Hope this clarifies the point I perhaps failed to explain well enough. Thank you for holding my feet to the fire, making me do a better job of explaining what I meant.
For your situation, by the way, I would suggest a few sessions with a behavioral psychologist to get your relationship pointed in the right direction. If your husband can see what he’s doing from an outsiders perspective, then practice new ways of disagreeing with you, your experiences with his hatred could dramatically improve in a relatively short time. I mention a behavioral psychologist because you’ll more likely get pragmatic fixes than years of talking through childhood trauma in expensive therapy sessions. A good behavioral therapist may want some background information and want all parties to understand how the past has set the stage for the present, but then it’s on to practical ways of improving the future.
Wish you the best and love your “name” by the way! Glad you love your hubs. Hope he’s doing a pretty good job of loving you back!
I have had to deal with bullies in my life often. Usually the bully is bullying someone close to me. This brings on a whole new set of problems to learn about, but not a lot of literature on the bully witness. In my experience, it is impossible for me to watch a loved one systematically and very predictably torn apart by their bully. The victims are in denial of there being bullying and the bully, if he/she knows you are on to them, heaven forbid, will turn his claws to you and pull out all stops. In the end, perhaps years later– years that you can’t afford, all gets revealed. But I am never acknowledged for the hell I endured simply because I loved the person being bullied. It’s an ego thing, I guess, but I don’t understand how not acknowledging it, knowing that I know that’s what they are doing, is less embarrassing to them than acknowledging it and making me happy for sticking with them through their nightmare. It blows me away and leaves me feeling completely drained of all substance. Bullies are adept at breaking up deep seated relationships. It’s one of their specialties. Every time they succeed, which is practically all the time, they get a boost of self-confidence– something they lack the most– so the incentive is there and that can cause the greatest pain known to the world of conscience-enriched inhabitants. Bullies can eat you for lunch and there goes everything you built in your life in one mid-afternoon snack, and they don’t bother bussing their table afterward either. They may pack a doggy bag though, if they think there is a nibble left that might be good tomorrow. I know enough about Bullies/Narcissists/Confidence Artists/.Sociopaths/Psychopaths to know that there is no way to stop them. We are living breathing sitting ducks and our lives can be thumped away from us without warning at any time. Now the bullies have learned how to play the perfect, believable victim of a bully to gain control of people. This is the case with my latest encounter and the hardest most impossible thing for me to do is convince myself that this is truly a bully I’m dealing with and to NOT be fooled by their heart-wrenching pleas to forgive them. I get suckered so easily because to believe it’s not true solves everything… if it really were true. In the end, it’s always the other choice that was right. The one your heart and your life did not want to realize. Bullies are wreckers of humanity.
Help….. I’m not sure who is the bully. In anger I have done all those things…slammed a door, shouted and cursed. However the trigger is usually my husband getting angry with me often for something that is not obviously an anger issue to me. His anger is cold and cruel with what he says. I’ve learned not to speak back most of the time because he just pulls down anything I say in my defense. Yesterday we had a meeting with a notaire about me buying a house in France. I don’t speak French well so he translates. He feels I should have ended the conversation more quickly because he had another meeting to go to afterwards. I did not deliberately prolong the conversation but we did have to rush when I noticed the time. He accused me of being selfish, not thinking of his needs. He would not accept ‘Sorry I didn’t realize the time.’ Though why it was my job to wind things up I’m not sure. He continued speaking sharply around the fact he’d given up his time to help me with the lawyer and I didn’t reciprocate by thinking of his needs and how selfish I was. It continued for several minutes, I kept quiet because I’ve learned that the more I defend myself the more he attacks bringing up past events etc. Until he stated I was a narcissist. I came out of a painful 4 yr relationship with a husband diagnosed as having NPD ten years ago. So then I got angry and raised my voice challenging his statement which he reiterated. I walked off furious and came home on my own. Later on that evening he said nothing just went on his computer. I slept in the spare room hoping that once he calmed down he would apologize. Nope….when I pointed out this morning how unacceptable it was to state I was a narcissist he justified himself and repeated that I was selfish most of the time. I got angry and stormed out slamming the door and swearing that he had a nerve to call me a f….ing narcissist. He called me for slamming the door and on my return insisted I was not only selfish but a bully too. So yes I do those things you list but I feel he degrades and criticizes so much when he gets angry that it’s my only defense. Sometimes I say nothing at all in the hope he will calm down quicker. But I end up feeling so alienated and unloved that it estranges me for days. And he never admits maybe he’s wrong. Over several years I’ve come to feel I have no good points only personality faults. The only thing he seems happy with is our sex life but that’s not enough for me. As a person I feel totally devalued and I have difficulty holding on to any sense of self worth.
You forget to mention also the provoking partner, the one that constantly seek to trigger your anger, even you try to make a point and you explain yourself. They keep coming at you and no other alternative either walk away or take the fight.
A somewhat misleading article, which misses the essence of what emotional
bullying is, which is the distortion of facts and emotional manipulation.
If there were some time stamps in the article and comments, that would be
helpful too, so that people can see if something was posted a week or a
decade ago. Thanks.
Thank you for the comment, Edward. Not really sure what to say about it though. Criticism is always welcomed because other perspectives than the norm give me ways to potentially improve what I write and the way I write it. But if you did not come away from the article understanding that all the examples I offered as ways emotional bullies bully others narrows to emotional manipulation, then I think you read a very different post than the one I wrote. Just not sure how it seems to you to be misleading. But if you would like to hone your point and provide examples of where I misled, I would love to see where I can improve.
As far as time stamps are concerned, not sure I see the point of them. If the comment was written three years ago or three minutes ago, the comment would be relevant or not. But its relevance would be based on what was written not when it was written. If I’m missing the bigger picture, please feel free to reply with reasons for adding time stamps.
Why was my comment deleted? Was there a problem?
No, your comment was not deleted. It just hadn’t been approved for publication yet. I’ve been out of town for a few weeks, so didn’t see your comment until tonight.Thank you for your patience!
Hi,
I was bullied for so long that I just stopped caring. Finally after suffering a stroke and after painfilled years trying to please husband, I stopped caring. And now he tries harder. however, it is far too late. a note to the bullies who need help. Do keep trying and acknowledge the problem, because no partner has to put up with disgraceful behaviour. circumstances may leave them in a position where they cannot physically leave, but once a loving spouse leaves emotionally, the damage is already done, and it is too late.
Excellent article Ken, hope you’re still dealing with replies. I believe I’m married to an emotional bully but I can also recognise myself is some of the descriptions and if I have a tendency towards bullying I believe this time I’ve met my match.. :(. My wife is verbally abusive, rarely if ever allowing me to speak when we’re discussing anything sensitive and by that I mean anything to do with money, my step kids, or any problem that might exist in the relationship. Outside of those areas we can usually agree to disagree but when we can’t it generally gets ugly very quickly.
Apart from the verbal bullying, name calling, constantly interrupting and contempt shown towards me and my position, my wife has been physically violent and very physically aggressive where she seems to want me to hit her, I know I can’t be sure of that but it certainly feels like it. One time I made the mistake of pushing her to get her away from me and she called the police on me. In fact she called the police twice and the other time I never touched her at all. I’m no angel but I’m not a man who needs to hit people to make a point.
She also regularly uses my step kids, going behind my back to bad mouth me and this has made it very difficult for me to build trust with them. We have a child together but he doesn’t take sides even though she has tried to involve him in our stuff and shared things with him that were inappropriate.
Finally, and most damaging is my wife’s tendency to deny and twist the truth. I know we all put a spin on our own positions but this can only be described as telling deliberate lies and concealing established facts and events and to be honest I often think that she doesn’t even realize what she’s doing in this dept, it’s almost as if the outcome and a win supercedes everything else including the truth.
I’m at the end of it all at this stage, I’m still in the house but the love i once felt is gone, I can’t trust her and I don’t feel safe or accepted and I really believe I need to go and give up on my marriage once and for all. Please advise
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This is by far the best article ever I read from this subject and I will get some of this points and try to help a couple that both have very serious issues in this terms and probally they both do not even realize it.l
My partner is a bully, and mother of our 2 kids aged 1 and 2.5. There were hints of it when we were dating, but when we moved in together it was full on. I remember constantly saying to her “stop putting me down”. She has frequent rage attacks and it can get very violent, combed with alcholol and she loses control completely. Police have taken her to hospital twice now as a result. This usually makes her more angry, and blames me for it.
If it wasn’t for the kids, I’ve have left already. Right now I’m only about 10% confident she will ever change this vile behaviour and am treading water until I work out what to do.
So much of this article hits home for me. However the crazy thing is with her, is that she would read this and think none of it applies to her, or she will identify with it and then forget within a week and return to normal behaviours.
Now I have to admit that in the last 3 years living with this, I have reacted a couple of times by raising my voice. Literally nothing else stops her, even that. But only so much a person can take. I’ve never fought with anyone i my life, but I have been driven to that! She then uses this against me and tells me that I’m abusive, which I’ve been told is also common.
My husband accused me off bullying him because when we argue I apparently go nuclear. I told him to man up the other day… and I have called him names in the past. However his behaviour when we argue isn’t perfect, or when he’s stressed. He’s aggressive, he moans nastily about stuff, he manipulates the conversation to make me agree with him and when I don’t that’s when we argue and I get the blame because I’m actually standing up for myself and don’t think I should agree with him. He asks me a question and I give him the answer and then says, don’t you think this or don’t you think you should… then when I say no the argument erupts and apparently it’s all my fault and I’m a bully. I agree calling someone names is not right or losing my temper and shout I and interrupting but what I can’t u sweat and is how is not ok for me to do but he also does that, bit the name calling (very often) and I don’t so much now) but everything else I do he does. So how am I the bully and what about the fight or flight response which everyone experiences during a conflict. You article is very good and has given me food for thought but I think it needs to include other physical responses and look at understanding arguemwnt. I think I have displayed a lot of the behaviours set out above and that makes me ashamed to say it but I’ve never done it unless it is in a fight with my husband I don’t act like this with anyone else
Thanks for writing this, many (but not all) of the examples I have experienced in the last 7 years of a relationship.
The one issue that has really been a struggle for my emotions and mindset is this….
Any time there has been a disagreement I have been given the chance to say very little. Any time I reply to a question or an accusation I am interrupted within the first few words of the first sentence.
I listen, I start to reply and am interrupted very quickly. New questions or insults or accusations are then added to the equation.
I have even said, by text, that even a serious criminal is allowed to respond. So please, allow me to respond to what you are saying.
Sometimes I will text a reply after walking away and the response I get just goes back to the same accusations. There is no acknowledgement of what I have written. I’m not thinking ‘oh, I have written that and they must agree with me’, I just would like a response. Whether it be in agreement or disagreement, I will respect the fact that I have also been listened to.
It is horrible. It will leave me thinking of what to say and how to say it, even though I know I will not be allowed to say it.
The only option seems to be to apologise for things I know full well I haven’t even done.
I went from having a good social network to somebody who has effectively isolated themselves from people. On the contrary, they had one friend when we met. That friend has nothing to do with her since an argument they had two years ago. They have made plenty of new friends through my social network though.
That is not the issue though, nor should it be, but it does feel a bit like ‘wow, how on earth did it get to this?’
A real pity, they are so lovely then when there is another one-way argument the situation is horrid.
Everybody has the right to speak and should be allowed to do so.
Not all bullies are overt. Not all people who yell are the bullies. Some people are just abused by covert narcisissts. This post is very dangerous to those people who are in abusive relationships with gaslighting passive aggressive bullies. For those of you who are taking on the bully moniker by reading this very simplistic list, ask yourself these questions. Are you the person who is constantly responsible for figuring out what to do next? Are you the one who spends hours trying to figure out how to make things better? Is your spouse apologetic after long bouts of the silent treatment or after you have broken down, but that only lasts as long as he or she feels back in your good graces, then it’s back to being your fault – always? Is your spouse coldly cruel when you quietly point out how he or she is treating you poorly, then refuses to talk to you about your feelings or his or hers until you are beside yourself? If the answers to many of these questions is yes, it does not matter who is doing the yelling. Covert bullies use gaslighting to drive you to lose your cool while they relish in being able to push your buttons. This article is incredibly wrong under those cicumstances so don’t fall for the idea it is really you that is the bully. Stonewalling and gaslighting can happen with out a single moment of raised voice. In fact, no single moment of raised emotions from your partner until you are distraught is a sure sign you are the one being bullied. Ken, I ask that you consider learning about covert narcissists and to consider revising this post so it is not so black and white. Abusers come in all shapes and sizes. Stereotyping how they abuse is not helpful and potentially downright harmful.
I’m an emotional bully! My mother was a beautiful person but was unhappy and stressed about day to day life, running a household and raising 5 kids.
I hated that she was angry all the time and gave out about every little thing.
I never wanted to be like her, I despised the way she was.
Now I behaving in the exact same way. it kills me that this is now the way I am. Everything my partner does shits me, it’s never good enough.
I don’t want to be unhappy I want to focus on the good things. I don’t know how to change this learned behaviour and I don’t want my daughter to get caught up in this same cycle of behaviour, I want the buck to stop with me.
Josie, thank you so much for your comment, for sharing your story here. I am so happy for you. I know that doesn’t sound right, given what you write, but what I’m happy about is that you recognize the problem and sound incredibly motivated to do something about it. Sometimes we find ourselves on emotional auto-pilot, reacting to external stimuli in a way that does not reflect our best selves.
In such circumstances, we almost have to reprogram our automatic responses by interrupting them and choosing a response more in line with our values. When you start heading down the wrong road when driving, once you notice you turned the wrong way, we simply course-correct. We pull a U-turn and go back the way we always meant to.
Why not do that emotionally as well? When we start to react angrily and catch ourselves, simply stop and course-correct. Let yourself be shocked by your own behavior enough to pull yourself out of it. Apologize and tell your girl or whoever you’re responding to how sorry you are, that you didn;t ean to react that way, then choose a better path.
I know this is much easier said that done, but try it. Work at it. It will become more and more natural and the distance between stimuli and response will get wider and wider, allowing you to more consciously choose how you want to treat others.
Good luck and God bless, Josie.
I have realised that I have been bullying my wife, the feeling of emptiness and ‘oh, I get it now’ is one of the strongest and worst I have ever felt.
My wife is changed because of it and I desperately want to fix our marriage but I think it is ruined.
For years I thought everything was her fault and she was deliberately pissing me off when all she wanted was to have a nice pleasant life.
Why did I do this? Personal stress and insecurity. When under pressure or working for a goal I become completely self centred and immune to the fact that other people have a right to exist.
I would give anything to have her smile at me and relax again, i cannot believe that I have done this.
Anyone got any ideas on what I can do? I can’t make any promises that I can’t definitely keep, I just want her to be happy again.
Reading this really opened my eyes as l was uncertain l am being emotionally bullied at first but since reading this I AM 100% certain it’s true. l love my girlfriend but recently I’ve wanted to commit suicide over it and that no one will believe me
So sorry to hear you’re being emotionally abused. But the suicide ideation is a deeper problem I would ask you to seek professional help to resolve. Your personal meaning and purpose in life shouldn’t be so tied to a person that they alter your ability to see value in living. It’s perfectly understandable to feel sad at the prospect of losing someone you care for, but try not to let the idea of losing someone keep you in a relationship that undercuts your happiness in such a fundamental way. A good therapist can help you navigate those waters by helping you to see through your own obstacles and lack of clarity, even if it’s only for a few sessions. Once you go and connect, you’ll get a sense for what you need.
Good luck, Stephen! My heart and prayers go out to you.
I know one such person pretty closely, they never hear my side and always try to impose their will or authority on me, resort to all kinds of tricks. Even when wrong, they never apologize. It is such a pain to live with and bear such characters, as they are totally immune to any logic and reason.
Thank you for this post.
I’m so tired of encounters with such people!
They seem to think it’s clever taking advantage of decent people.
There are too many bullies in the world and keyboard warriors highlight it.
Some people will never change unfortunately.
Assertiveness and first aid ought to be taught in schools.
However, setting boundaries with some people can challenging
Protecting oneself is important
Ken,
I enjoyed this article and I must say, after reading a lot of the comments from other people I’ve begun to think that Bullying seems to be a “one size fits all” response to any conflict between people where either or both wish to assert control, or at least to avoid vulnerability.
My first wife was a hellion and Bullying was her go-to solution for everything. After twenty five years of this, the children were grown and she got caught cheating (I suspect it was going on quite a while). Needless to say we divorced and for five years I stayed single. The bullying however had inflicted deep wounds on me, and I admit that in my own damage control actions I also used some of the bullying quiver’s arrows in that relationship.
My current wife of twenty five years has her own bullying tactics and hers are mostly to reassure her that she’s “not forgotten”/”in control”. I’m wiser now and I keep away from escalating things. I’ve also learned that with a little help I can escalate a minor argument into a barn-burner, so I typically just shrug the incursions off. If only she hadn’t decided so early that to “win” an argument she took intimacy off the table, which apparently blew up in her face because at times she seems like she wishes we were closer, but has made it impossible by burying punji sticks all around this possible behavior.
I’m running long here, but my point is that in any relationship I’ve ever seen, bullying is in EVERYONE’s toolbox. Whether it is bullying as an aggressor, or bullying as a passive-aggressive victim, or bullying as a “I don’t have a dog in this fight” circumspect ‘partner’. It is there.
Instead, I’ve been working on my personal courage and self esteem and avoiding fear and worry. Someone in the comments said “you aren’t going to ‘fix’ the bully”, and I want to add that you can’t out-bully another bully. All you can do is focus on your own resilience, pray that you can have deep healing, fortify your courage, and forgive your self as God has forgiven you.
Rich
Hi Ken, I agree that many times bullies come from difficult backgrounds, but you are also right in saying that this does not justify their behaviour. I often say that there is a moment when a person who has suffered abuse makes a choice. A moment of clarity when they see ahead of them a fork in the road. One path involves paying the abuse forward, and becoming an abuser yourself, while the other involves breaking the cycle. I believe that your post could help more people choose the latter. Thank you, Carla
Hi Ken, it is often said that hurt people hurt other people, but frankly I find that insulting. There are so many brave, kind people out there who have been hurt and traumatised, but who do not pass it on. They work on healing their wounds, and do not take it out on anyone else.
Good on you for writing such a hard-hitting post.
Carla
This lady she is a cyberbully her name is Flora A. she is a racist she was saying very mean things to me on Hangouts she called me the n word she will tell you she’s not a racist but she is she just doesn’t want you to know that she’s a racist.
Thought provoking article, but like many others, it is frustrating to read another blog recommending psychiatric help while failing to mention how truly brutally difficult it is to even find proper help for people that are even willing to get help, which is in itself rare.
Someone I know sought help and went through 4 professionals in a year. The first lasted 3 sessions and wasn’t a match. The second no-showed on their second appointment – then terminated the client with no referrals. Finally he found a 3rd who after two sessions told the patient he wasn’t able to help him. The 4th wouldn’t accept his insurance. He gave up. Pretty sad.
I (31F) have recently lost the man (31M, lets call him Jim) I love the most in my life due to being the emotional bully. Or relationship ended at the beginning of the year. Tonight while gaming together online and trying to stay friends I completely messed up again and bullied him. I didn’t know that’s what I had done till I read this article tonight, after the fact, in a moment of desperation.
I’ve been working on the delivery of what I say because I thought that’s what the problem was, the way I say things. I shouted and cried a lot in the relationship and I’ve been working on keeping calm and stating what I need to state effectively and without tears. Tonight I bullied Jim without thinking I was flying off the handle, I hurt him calmly and clearly and without crying or raising my voice. I used emotional blackmail, unburying the dead, my feelings are more valid than yours and so on and so on. I was truly a bully and he thought I was being bratty and self-righteous and cruel.
I am receiving therapy at the moment and I’m absolutely going to bring this up in the next session, I’ve already messaged my therapist.
I am desperate to become a better person, for myself and the future I hope to have as his friend. The fact he is still my friend after everything I’ve done makes me feel utterly undeserving of him, and bloody lucky, and a whole heap of grateful, especially after reading this article.
I think a lot of the people commenting here are those who’s partners were/are the bully, maybe they intend to show them this to help them see the error of their ways. I am not the partner, I am the bully. It’s something I’m trying hard to remedy but I’d never seen it that way until today. I thought I was a childish tantrum-haver, not a manipulative bully. I was wrong.
Tonight I have never felt so low about myself and literally found this article googling “am I the abuser in the relationship?” in the hope that I would see something that helped me.
There are only two things that I haven’t done to the man I adore on this list – weaponising the kids because I/we don’t have any – revenge, it’s just not the way I think at all. Those are the only two of 15 things that I haven’t done to the man I adore in the past 2.5years, and one of them is simply because we don’t have kids.
It’s so so hard to look in the mirror and see a bully. I was bullied as a child a lot at school. Both physically and emotionally by both boys and girls.
Looking back I can see that over the years I have been an emotional bully at times to both my parents, my brother, my best and oldest friend, my closest female friend, my two most significant exes (the second of whom was emotionally controlling and abusive, but that doesn’t excuse my behaviour, I should have walked away rather than bullied him back) and Jim. Basically the people I have loved most of all.
I cannot begin to express my distress realising that I am a bully, and a bully of those who I want to be with, those I love, and those I have sworn to protect. I spent a good minute tonight wondering if they would all be better off without me in their lives and I shouldn’t be here. If fixing the problem is too hard and I should rid the world of the problem by ridding the world of me.
If I can learn to change it would be amazing, and I would be so so glad to know that I am making their lives better rather than worse. I will push for this, and try to be optimistic that I can change. My family and I are great, I see the bullying behaviour only when I look back at the situation a number of years ago, same goes for my two best friends. It’s too late to make amends to my two previous exes, although with hindsight I can also see I bullied them… but Jim is still my friend right now and I hurt him so so badly tonight and I hardly know how to live with myself.
He is such a good friend that we are spending my birthday (32 next week) together gaming online despite how much I have hurt him. I want to make sure that I treat him with the care, respect, and love that he really really deserves.
Thank you so much for writing this article and holding up a mirror to my appalling behaviour. I never knew I was a bully, and it’s a hard thing to admit.
I will do all I can to be a kinder person in future, and I’ll be showing this article to my therapist, my mum, and maybe one-day even Jim.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart
Rosie
Dear Rosie, thank you so much for your authenticity and openness here. It is a measure of one’s character to stand in front of a mirror and truly see what’s being reflected. Your desire to make things right, to learn and grow is impressive, given how seldom most people pay much attention to such things. Sometimes life forces us to our knees where we can finally see the truth more clearly, with out the lens-obscuring fog of pride and selfishness or the emotional gag-reflex of turning quickly away from pain that has been long buried and denied. So the fact that you can write what you wrote is encouraging.
Life is a journey, not a destination. No one is perfect. We are all ongoing works in progress. That’s simply the nature of life and humanity. So please don’t judge your progress too harshly, determining that if total change doesn’t happen soon, you’ll remove yourself from life. Don’t you see? That impulse in itself is another bully tactic turned inward: “If I don’t comply with my wishes when and in the way I want, all hell is going to break out. And this time permanently!” Growth is almost always gradual and incremental. It is fraught with steps forward only to encounter more steps backward in a zig-zagging pattern of stumbling forward. I’m so glad you are seeking professional help. That’s so important. But allow time to learn and grow and inch your way forward. You’ve spent a lifetime developing emotional responses to stress and habitual ways of thinking and reacting. So allow yourself time to reprogram the hardware of your mind. Please promise me that.
Hi Ken
Thanks so much for your reply. I have talked things through with my therapist (who knows all of the situation and other stressors I’m dealing with at present) and also with my mum.
Mum’s response focused around the fact that she too had a moment of realisation like this, that her behaviour was inappropriate towards my dad (still together living together since 79, married since 89) when they were both grieving the loss of two mutual friends, a while before I was born. Dad had to give her a bit of an ultimatum. They (like myself and Jim) deal with stress very differently and she thinks this clash can often come out in arguments that exhibit bullying tactics like these ones. This gives me hope. My parents are a great example of pulling yourself up through this and making it work for another 30+ years. My mum is also one of the kindest calmest least bullying people I know, and an amazing parent, so if she can become that maybe I can too.
My therapists response focused on not labelling myself as a bully, but rather appreciating that what a person does isn’t that persons identity, and that the things we do are flexible and changeable and we can work on them. I am not a bully, I have done bullying things. We are currently working on self forgiveness and behaviour change which seems to be helping.
Jim and I are still in contact, and I have kept things very light. He seems to enjoy my company online and we have promised to watch a series together online (we live quite a distance away) which has weekly episodes and a nice opportunity to connect about something other than the past relationship. I’m not quite ready to talk to him about this, so I’m pleased we can just be casual and friendly and talk about the series and how work is going etc with no deeper stress or meanings or arguments.
I would like to point out that I am in no way a danger to myself. The consideration of a world made easier without me, and actively working out what I might do to make that happen are two different things. I have no desire to hurt myself or to do anything drastic. I was simply feeling desperately sad that maybe these people would be happier without me.
I really appreciate that you have replied and pointed out that thinking about my removal from their lives is also an inward bullying tactic, it’s exclusion. Like I don’t “deserve” to hang out with them. I can absolutely tell you that this was the way generally the girls used to bully me at school. Using exclusion and cold shouldering and other tactics. I’m glad you pointed this out. I won’t exclude myself from life, and I will give myself the time I need to heal. I am happy to promise that.
I feel quite stubborn about this now, that it’s time I shed these behaviours and not let it define me, and that however long it takes I’ll keep chipping away at it.
I’m going to play a video game with Jim online tonight, so I’ve put up a few little bullet points on a post it under my therapists advice, to centre myself if I feel upset or angry, and take a moment to think of what the fair reaction is, not what the gut reaction is.
Thanks very much
Rosie
I am bullied and probably could be called at times a bully if yelling is a tact used by bullies.
I do not understand normal relationships that never yell things over.
I try to do and say and be aware of everything that pisses off my spouse. He is incesive about everything that one person could ever choose.
During regular conversation other people around us seem to think we are arguing?
I am at a loss exhausted and emotionally drained from my day to day survival and his chronic victim mode that has been stuck on for years.
Every topic is alive with contempt as it was the same moment it was committed. Forgive and forget…. Not here in my world.
I want to die. I want him to die. I don’t believe he loves me or tells me the truth and my words are not worth the time to listen to or read… I need to find and out cuz I think it will harm my health someday and I don’t want to miss out on fun. When do you know he will never change and to run ? How to run when the rath of dealing with him might be easiest
LB, thank you so much for trusting us here enough to share the intimacy of your challenges at home with bullying. It sounds like you’re at a place where professional help is likely needed, both for your relationship and for your own personal emotional health. Please contact a professional in the mental health field so you can get the needed help.
Having said that, if you two are at a level where you want yourself and him to die, I think it’s time to leave. I can’t take sides, of course because I’m not privy to what happens in your home, who contributes what to the problems, but relationships are not meant to be prison sentences. If every conversation drips with contempt, it’s time for radical change or a change in your relationship status.
I wish you the best and hope things work out for you. God bless and please call someone for professional help.
The reality of my behavior is dawning upon me like a ton of bricks – I really am a bully! I’m horrified by how my behavior has affected my spouse and children and desperate for change. I’m in DBT now and working through things with a therapist but still engaging in habitual tirades of anger that I can’t seem to stop until it’s over and I regret it. Please recommend further strategies, reading, resources, etc. I don’t want to be this way.